The Crystal Ball

[Insuber]

No, they will work for free for you like slaves for the rest of their miserables lives.

[Aer9o]

...Either way they dissapointed me... the least to say by not releasing anything this Christmas and NO, I will not pay again to have this game fixed!

[FS~Phat]

Hi guys you're of course welcome to voice your opinions and feelings but please be 'mindful' what you say. Posts are being heavily moderated and you may find your posts deleted if they come even close to going over the line and worst case whole threads being locked or deleted and even possibly earning yourself a ban for 24hrs. Constructive comment and criticism is always welcome as long as it doesn't descend to personal attacks, false statements and wildly inaccurate speculation. This thread will be closely watched as it is the type that brings the worst out in people and it will be locked if it degrades. You have been warned!

On another note...
Merry Christmas all! This simulation is well on its way to becoming what we all want it to be, and I was one that wasn't very happy with performance from day one, but it is night and day now compared to 9 months ago and the new engine will address the remaining performance issues.

It is what it is as far as the past goes but they have shown they are committed to the series and it's only logical that some features come out in later versions. That is the way this series evolved from Sturmovik to 1946 and Luthier has made it clear this generation of IL2 will be no different.

The beta patch will come out when it's ready. The nature of software development with a major engine rewrite is that things can come up that ruin the best of plans. Once the major rewrite is complete, it is likely it will be easier to release betas in a predictable manner. Please be patient and keep the faith.

People need to move on and stop dragging up the past. We will get the new engine along with other fixes without buying the sequel. Some features will only be available in the sequel and that is no different than the old series. The GOOD thing is, the new "theatre" features and upgrades are available for earlier theatres of operation.

Please excuse typos sent from my iPad!

[mungee]

I don't have a problem with paying for a sequel while the funds from that help to keep the WHOLE PROJECT financially viable.

I think that CoD has loads of amazing things in it - the awesome cockpits etc. Sure it needs some tweaks, but CoD & its sequels don't get created on pure 'love' - they need cash.

Provided it keeps moving in the right direction (which I am confident it will) I will continue to contribute!

If I look back at IL-2 and divide the aggregate cost of Il-2; Forgotten Battles; Pacific Fighters; and 1946, by the number of hours of excitement/pleasure that I got out of that series, it was damn cheap entertainment!!!

Try to look at it that way - CoD is not a FPS etc that aims at the large and lucrative young mass-market - flight simmers are a limited market and if it means "feeding the light meter" along the way, I'm more than happy to do that.

Happy Christmas to all of you out there!

[SturmKreator]

Devs should have microtransactions like ROF, you make the graphic engine and then sell the planes, scenarios, etc

[von Pilsner]

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

Devs should have microtransactions like ROF, you make the graphic engine and then sell the planes, scenarios, etc

I prefer the IL-2 way of just making a 'theater' expansion rather than selling everything 'piecemeal'.

[SturmKreator]

Originally Posted by von Pilsner

I prefer the IL-2 way of just making a 'theater' expansion rather than selling everything 'piecemeal'.

But the ROF system is very solid, they only have to sell 2 planes for players every year, to continue the support!!!

[MD_Titus]

grathos, good post

Originally Posted by SturmKreator

Devs should have microtransactions like ROF, you make the graphic engine and then sell the planes, scenarios, etc

jesus no. i like RoF but doing this would mean that having online scenarios with unusual plane sets would be a rare occurence, as few would buy it an you'd have to have the common planes (spits or 109s) on every single god damn map. and if they did the field mod thing (for factory fitted things like the bloody aldis on the SE5a)... i would be livid.

[335th_GRAthos]

I am a bit dissapointed this Christmas...

#1. My Christmas present (to myself) a Thrustmaster Warthog was half a success: I kept the Warthog Throttle but stored the Warthog Stick quickly away and brought back my loyal MS SW2FFB. It is suicidal for my wrists' tendons to use this stick to fly a WWII plane with no automatic trim.

#2. NV decided not to introduce the next generation of graphics cards for Christmas
I am waiting for the next generation and for the generation after that in order to be able to play this game with full resulution and full graphics.

#3. No beta patch for Xmas present Oh well, life is like that...


At least the great news was the special offer, CoD for USD9.99 which is great!


I have managed to play a reasonable time online at the REPKA and ATAG servers and it has been amazing fun. I have managed to make a reasonable amoun of air-, ground- and sea-kills, too.
Of course I fly at lower settings than I would like to (but I blame NVIDIA for this) but it is still 70fps, memory leak is not a problem and the immersion of this game is so big that I have not touched my IL2FB versions ever since!

So for me, the game is great! Period!

And I paid only once (actually twice - I bought two) and I am grateful to the ATAGs' and REPKAs' who put all the money and hw so that I can play for free.

Just as a reminder, the World of Warcraft and some other similar communities have between 10 - 17 million players (repeat: ten to seventeen million players) who pay subscriptions of USD 10.00 per month (repeat: ten dollars per month) to play online!

So,
- I am grateful that 1C created a WWII game of this excellence (because I do not like World of Warcraft and similar games).
- I am grateful that I do not have to pay every month.
- I would pay for the next and, after next and, after after next version of the game if 1C keep developing the game of my taste.
- I will spend thousands of dollars in order to get the necessary hardware to play my game (so the cost for the game is peanuts compared to the money I spend for my gear so why the hell do I have to feel bitter about it????).

Of course I will buy any better WWII simulation on the market. But, hold on, there is no other WWII simulation out in the market...

unless if you want to play against Chuck Norris...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=FOaGhE_sejI

So relax all and Merry Xmas!

my 2 cents
~S~

[Red Dragon-DK]

Originally Posted by Luthier
We’ll work along the model similar to the old Il-2. There’s a single progression line from version to version dotted by sequels. For example, we never released a patch for Forgotten Battles that contained new code from Pacific Fighters. The way to get it was to buy PF and merge it into FB. That’s exactly how it will be with CoD

Luthier - And to make sure to drive my main point across. We are still working on improving CoD. No one's abandoned it. There will be patches. My answers about things in the sequel were meant for those specific features. Please don't try to read between the lines!

I do not have a problem with this. If you dont want to move on and pay for the sequel -fine so be it. After Oleg left and the Sim was forced out by the those with the money, it was a mess. But I think they have done a lot to improve and finetune the game. No its not there yet, where its done, but with small staps we are getting closer every patch. But I belive they will make it at least stabile before the the sequel and the major changes and improvements / fixes will come with it.

Whatever you and me like it or not, they have to make money for a compani and themself. And thats why it is in the sequel you will see the huge changes.

Personally, I look forward to and buy the sequel, I will not complain all the time but give developers some credit for what they have already achieved. Constructive kretik often leads to positive changes in how to cry only leads to a negative atmosphere. What about you?

Merry Christmas to everybody