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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 12-23-2011, 02:09 PM
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(the following comment(s) can be disregarded if we get a free patch for CloD)

That's fine and all but I don't see why we have to pay more, we've paid for CloD and that's that. If that wasn't enough, then why didn't they sell us CloD for like 80€ instead? oh, I guess even MG didn't have the stomach to charge that much for an unfinished game, oh snap!
dont forgets the ubisoft equation in all this.

Theres a very strange deal been made between ubi and 1c and 1cmaddox if there still even called that, and it may be strange to us, but not to 1c or the developers. i also feel that this very thing gives lay to the future of the franchise. which by the end will have made money im quite 100% sure of that. in essence anything could have happened there however bizzare in appearance or explanation of which there is none off. so it leaves us with bizzare.

we can all agree that its all very bizzare cant we. there after its just our belief system that is kicking in to no effect as it does not provide facts or answers of any form.

anyway heres my belief. sometimes you have to speculate to accumulate and with the name of IL2™ (a guaranteed money generator) i think a deal was struck to get the CLOD on the shelves before the end of that fiscal year as ubisoft were quite literally screwed. i believe a deal was made to continue funding the development. i believe that ubisoft thought they could claw back somthing from the situation for there benefit of that fiscal year. the end result was a mess that we payed for.(ubisoft to blame explicitly) i believe oleg had to go because in reality he got in the way of too many parties intentions by the afore said belief of mine. by parties i mean 1c ,developers, and ubisoft. the result is a mess, but there is a fix seemingly, and its as clear cut and simple as that. but ill say again our belief systems bark us up the wrong path everyday, we are cursed with it in reality. iam no biggot and i do try employ critical thinking where possible. and sorry if i have barked up the wrong tree.

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Old 12-23-2011, 02:12 PM
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dont forgets the ubisoft equation in all this.

Theres a very strange deal been made between ubi and 1c and 1cmaddox if there still even called that, and it may be strange to us, but not to 1c or the developers. i also feel that this very thing gives lay to the future of the franchise. which by the end will have made money im quite 100% sure of that.
You are most likely correct in your assertions. There's probably a very big picture behind all of this that is for 1c, Ubisoft and MG eyes only. Ubisoft is a money making business just like every other publisher/developer. If they didn't see any money in CloD and it's eventual sequels then it wouldn't have existed, same goes for 1c.
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Money must come in, of course...

I agree with Luthier completely, and I think that the sequel will be a brand new program that will (mostly) pick the objects and the maps from the installed CoD, thereby cleaning the code of all the crap put there during the high drama crunch period, changes in programmers, etc...And we will have then what Oleg promissed 6 years ago and an amazing simulation to be sure...

As a former software engineer, I would have taken that decision a while ago...oh wait, they probably did...

Now as to when BfM will come out...Quicker than everybody here thinks...but then I'm an eternal optimist.

Lou

P.S: Happy Holidays and may the new year bring an end ("or the beginning of the end or at least the end of the beginning") to the financial crazyness some really really really greedy people have laid on many, if not most of us...
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