Friday Update - December 9, 2011

[klem]

Well BlackSix, if you're still reading posts this far down the thread you'll have a taste of what Luthier had to put up with. Guys are speculating, some are complaining and then they begin to argue about their speculations and complaints as thought they are fact. Then they blame 1C for the speculations and fights they have created themselves. Welcome to the banana forum.

Thank you for the information, it is what it is. It doesn't meet all our hopes but two direct questions may answer many speculations and complaints.

You say you don't know if the next release will be "compatible with CoD". A more direct question which I don't think people have asked clearly is:

"Will it be possible for BoM to be merged with CoD?" (Like we did in IL-2).

"If so, will all the new core improvements work for CoD maps and aircraft?"

[xHeadbanDx]

Yaaa for updates !!!! hope the squeal adds Americana and Russian planes.

[Havoc04]

Originally Posted by SIDWULF

Ilya seems like a good guy with a great personality. The negativity is incredible here. IL2 Cliffs of Dover is visually and technically excellent. And the problems you speak of are far from deal breakers. I think people spend to much time posting here and not enough acctually playing the game to have an idea about what they are talking about.

I noticed sir you didn't add sound wise, VERY clever.. for with the radio broken not being able to do/give radio commands to wing men and the abhorrent sounds that came with the game is a deal breaker.
Hmmm my wingmen is badly damaged ill send him home......Ooops no i cant, you guess the reason why? I prefer the SP side i dont play MP and the radio thing IS a DEAL BREAKER for me pure and simple. We all have opinions and that is mine

But i thank the OP for his post. news is better than no news and i hope he keeps it up.

Regards

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

But there are laws at least in my country about bait and switch. Asking someone to pay for a different product which contains the something they advertised in a current product, is deceptive and illegal. Wonder if the maybe 35 guys that post regularly in this forum would count as "class-action" or not, lol.

First of all you would have to have a case..

Which there isn't, since CoD contains everything that is advertised

And by advertised I mean everything listed in hard cover adds, official Internet sites (1C/UBI), and the side of the box..

And for those who may be a little confused.. Something Oleg talked about doing two or three years ago in an online interview does NOT count as advertisement official or otherwise.

Perfect example being 'dynamic weather' Oleg said in an interview a good year to year and a half before CoD was release that CoD would have dynamic weather. Prior to release 1C said they were not able to get dynamic weather in. And just to be crystal clear, 1C nor UBI stated dynamic weather was included in CoD

Thus no case can be made, thus no class action lawsuit

Its that simple

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Dano

Which of those do we not have?

Dano..

Don't bother.. They will never answer..

Why?

Because any attempt at providing an answer will only prove the fact that there is nothing missing that was advertised.

And don't even bother to try and understand why they would want to promote such a myth.. You probably wouldn't want to know anyway, surly some Freudian cigar thingie!

All you can hope for is to put out the true information in the hopes that those new comers and old who are reading this thread will realize that they never provided an answer

At which point they will realize 1C did not rip them off and thus not get upset over a myth

Having people pissed off over a myth does not do them or the progress of this sim any good

So just keep the truth out there in opostion to the myths..

Just don't hold your breath waiting for an answer from the myth makers!

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

From Steam's advertisement, the original 1c one is full of more promises, but take a look at which of these features you have right now. Go look for Oleg's posts dating from way back, you'll see small, but important lines, telling us what is for this installment.


http://store.steampowered.com/app/63950/


You're bashing at the wrong guy, I'm one that normally opens people to the stuff that is right here. But hearing that they are dropping work on giving us the goods, in order to work on something we're going to have to pay for is just wrong.

Its highly unlikely that you will have to pay for the Battle for Moscow to get any new features like dynamic weather. It would probably be added as a patch to COD, although most people will probably buy Battle for Moscow and any new features will be added to COD, when they do a merged install. Personally I don't have that much interest in the Eastern front but will quite happily buy it to support further theaters, like the Med.

[salmo]

Thankyou for the update BlackSix. Your efforts are much appreciated.

However, I have to say that the response to requests for documentation on the FMB, triggers, switches & scripting is unsatisfactory. It's been 9+ months since the game was released with no (zero, nada, zip, nil) fmb documetation & to recieve the response " People who can write the documentation are same people who improve the game. They are buried in other tasks and cannot yet put the game away and start writing prose." simply beggers belief

IMO, the game will not mature until the community can get actively involved in enhancing the game, for this they need documentation & the SDK's. That way, the community can develop certain game enhancements while the Dev's continue to improve the core of the game.

I just looked at the on-line COD server list , which makes very disappointing viewing. It does not bode well for the game's future. Just 12 on-line game servers, 11 of them empty & one with just 10 players only on a weekend (Friday night/Saturday).

[Chivas]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

A few of the things we were told we were going to have (without digging up all the old threads): Dynamic weather, playable AA guns, a fuller map of England (Northern section), South France, Antwerp (assuming all of Belgium here, but can't remember if all was promised or just to the Antwerp area), SDK.

If like Chivas hints, they give those to us free at the same time as BoM is released, for CoD, then they're fulfilling their promise. If not, that's bait and switch for more money.

You might even get many of those features before Battle of Moscow because they will probably use COD to beta test them. There were never any promises about the size of the map., or most everything else for that matter. All they did was keep us informed over the years on the features they were trying to build into COD. Some features even those we don't even know about yet will also be delayed until the sim is further optimized or next generation systems are powerfull enough to handle them with palyable framerates.

[jimbop]

Yes, got to say that I don't understand why the dev team isn't making it easier for the community to improve the game with them. The servers at the moment are depressing as salvo says.

[akmarine]

While it's sad to see some of the features get pushed on to the sequel, I think some of the problems may have been eliminated by looking before you leap.

Is dynamic weather really putting a damper on your fun? I can understand the FPS/memory leak issues but they are working on a patch for the current game in that regard.

I bought this game last month and already logged 63 hours on it. If you did the math, I spent roughly $2.62 per hour of fun. Thats cheaper than a coffee in my eyes. To me that=worth my money. I can understand everyone wants the bells and whistles but once this game's memory leaks/FPS issues are fixed you should be happy with what you have.