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I find it interesting to come back to the 1C forums every now and then, and still see people talking/debating the Northrup Grumman issue. AFAIK, it isn't exactly against the law; it's just a matter of legal precedent from my understanding (and no game company wants to take the risk of legal action from a giant corporation like NG).
I'm sure some of you here would gladly debate what I've just said, but it really doesn't matter. Just wait for a Yorktown-class mod to be completed (two have already been started). Remember the P-61? We thought we'd never have the one of those for the same reason, but now there's a Black Widow mod that has a better 3D model than the one originally built for Pacific Fighters. Modders can (and are) filling the gaps 1C couldn't. I only wish I had the skill or knowledge because I'd make the Enterprise myself ![]() |
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![]() One thing I would love to see is for the US and IJN generic BB's to be removed from the game --- and replaced with something more authentic. Pearl Harbour map with no authentic BB's -- I guess this is all down to the NG issue. ![]() Ashe Last edited by Asheshouse; 11-12-2011 at 08:40 AM. |
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(in case, you are talking about his one: http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php?topic=19018.0)
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Could somebody tell me which ww2 aircraft that we don't have in the stock game are affected by the Grumman issue?
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the most important :
F4U Corsair later versions F8F Bearcat P-61 Black Widow (and F-15 Reporter) SB2U Vindicator TBF Avenger (flyable) |
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Birdcage F4U Corsair B-29 Superfortress (flyable) |
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All the aircraft listed are affected (Vought is owned by Northrop-Grumman today), except the B-29. It was a Boeing product, and has nothing to do with NG at all.
Also, Westinghouse Electric (jet engines, radars etc.) is now part of NG. These companies are not affected either: -Douglas (and McDonnell & later McDonnell-Douglas) is part of the current Boeing company. -Same for North American Aircraft, now part of Boeing. -Republic aircraft is long gone. First it was bought by Fairchild, afterwards it's been know variously as Fairchild-Dornier, M7 Aerospace and is now part of Israeli owned Elbit Systems (!) -Everything which is now part of Lockheed Martin (Lockheed and Martin atleast, ![]() -Curtiss-Wright is existence today also as its own. -Consolidated, Vultee (and later after these two merged, Convair) belong to General Dynamics corp. Seems that the European companies are a bit more gentle. Imagine if BAE Systems (pretty much every British company) or EADS did the same as NG did.
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your choice is...? i see what i see. and it pleases my ignorant eyes ![]() |
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You still haven't responded to any of my points. NG isn't going around starting wars, they're simply a corporation like any other, interested in business and making money. As I've said, they way they pushed around 1C here was completely wrong, but major companies fire similar trademark related lawsuits all the time. Yes it sucks, but there's nothing we can do about it. Now, if Ubisoft had given 1C some halfway decent support, this issue could have been worked out in a manner that would have allowed us to have all of these aircraft.
I don't care what you think of Northrop's CEOs or lawyers, but what's your problem with the average worker? As someone who works for a small firm manufacturing engine components, I'd be damned pleased if I ended up working for NG someday. We can't keep flying B-52s and F-15s forever. There are many, many things in America's military due to be phased out in the coming years. Having such industry here in the United States sure beats having to import everything or eventually letting our military degrade to third-world status. I just wish there hadn't been so much consolidation over the years. It wasn't that long ago when McDonnell Douglas, Grumman, North American/Rockwell International, Vought, and Republic/Fairchild were all their own companies. Last edited by NukeItFromOrbit; 11-13-2011 at 06:42 AM. |
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