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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 10-24-2011, 04:36 PM
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But if they plan to release an SDK for plane making then this all becomes somewhat irrelevant, who is going to 'buy' a plane that is availlable for free because of a modding community.......I make the assumption that community mods will be free.
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Old 10-24-2011, 04:41 PM
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But if they plan to release an SDK for plane making then this all becomes somewhat irrelevant, who is going to 'buy' a plane that is availlable for free because of a modding community.......I make the assumption that community mods will be free.
Well, the day the third party developers do aircraft of the visual quality of the original CoD models with all moving meters and levers etc I guess they will not be free Look at FSX, the good stuff costs the same amount as the base CoD game... And then you can't even shoot something down and there are no multi level damage models etc?
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Old 10-24-2011, 05:25 PM
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I wouldnt say no to DLC planes, look at rise of flight, there not exspensive, and they make nice addons
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Old 10-25-2011, 11:33 PM
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But if they plan to release an SDK for plane making then this all becomes somewhat irrelevant, who is going to 'buy' a plane that is availlable for free because of a modding community.......I make the assumption that community mods will be free.
The sooner the dev's begin releasing the SDK's (map making, plane making etc) the faster COD will develop. This development can occur simultaneously with the dev's improving the game core.
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The sooner the dev's begin releasing the SDK's (map making, plane making etc) the faster COD will develop. This development can occur simultaneously with the dev's improving the game core.
I wonder how this plane making is going to work out. Will we see everyone's personal interpretation of Spit performance?

I really have some concerns if planes and particularly FMs and DMs will be tweaked by users in the future. Particularly when releasing a tool that is helping to do it.

What will happen is the same as in IL2. Each server will have their version of their planeset. The modded planes evolving in an erratic way because someone decided that it needs more tweaking. I dunno how this is going to end up.

I don't mind modders to make new maps or objects whose performance does not impact the gameplay as much as planes, guns, vehicles, etc.

BTT: I am also more in favour of the package coming with an addon.

Come on, the RoF scheme gets really annoying. Now they sell field mods for each plane ... What's next? Paying for each screw?
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Old 10-26-2011, 12:43 AM
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Small edit: I for one would gladly buy an I-16 over a 109F any day of the week. Not all of us are are purely concerned with how many virtual socks they can stuff in their underpants.
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+1 The aircraft SDK would be madness.

I do not like the DLC either, much prefer the addon DVD package. The ROF's arms race explicitly dishonest, unabashed thing. imho.
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I see, you got RoF when it was free.

Many people paid for RoF when it was practically unplayable and had the DLC to pay for also!!
That'd be folk like me theb. Rof has to be one of the priciest games I have, even if you take into consideration fb, pf, aces and 1946. Easy £100 spent on rof for ultimately a lot less. Even buying the two bombers in rof is close to what I paid for the game itself.
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Would I pay for DLC containing single aircraft? No.
Would I pay for a DLC that introduces a specific set of aircraft tailored to a new campaign (Barbarossa, Invasion of Norway etc)? Yes, I actually would.

But for single aircraft DLC's I wouldn't bother. Not enough value to care about them.
Single or paired aircraft as dlc is, imo, not a good idea. I'd be disinclined tocontinue with clod if it went that route. It limits online map makers, means players won't, for the large part, try those weird and unpopular planes. Theatre packs is a different matter, and follows the same model as il2.
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Theatre packs is a different matter, and follows the same model as il2.
I'd take a theatre-pack, even smaller ones, over single-aircraft DLC's any day of the week. Single-aircraft DLC would be tremendously stupid, and would lead to the famous FOTM-mindset (Flavor Of The Month), where everyone will buy and fly what's percieved as the "best" aircraft.

I want this to be a sim where your performance is based on the pilot's ability to keep track of what's going on in relation to his own aircraft, his ability to manage the aircraft's systems and pure blind dumb luck (it comes down to that at times as well). If I want to play Battlefield, I'll go play blasted battlefield...
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Come on, the RoF scheme gets really annoying. Now they sell field mods for each plane ... What's next? Paying for each screw?
What we asked, when they need to pay for flight time (spent fuel, pollution) ... which – let's face it – in today's oil situation is perfectly understandable step would be ...
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