The news about RRG from Oleg

[robtek]

Yes, we want it all!!!
And we want it asap!!!
And of course without bugs!!!
Did I say we want it asap?

[proton45]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

As long as everyone is speculating, I'd love to see an add on of the air war in China before the arrival of the AVG.

So may different aircraft types on both sides.

From Curtiss, to Fiat, to Nakajima.

Biplanes vs. early monoplanes.

It would be amazing.

agreed!

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Originally Posted by Viking

most Americans and non Europeans will find little or no interest in the BoB scenario

Could not disagree more as Im as excited for SoW as any Brit I would imagine although Im extremely excited for the Korean sim and have been since it was rumored.

Im American btw.

S!

[kid_SA]

I think those in this forum have a more general approach to flight simming, and would be interested in anything that involved flight, from one end of the globe to the other.

However, I think that a more "random" person will be more interested in a conflict that he has direct contact with, through his country, his relatives, his schooling, whatever, than another conflict. Once he's hooked on flight, he might fly anything, but what will make him pick up that box in the first place? Will it be a picture of the famous p51 (maybe he's seen a real model somewhere) or a more obscure chinese model?

Even within the flight community, the servers are an interesting demographic. (note: this is by no means a hard and fast rule, I fly all theaters and I know many others do). Let's take the "full switch" servers, purely because that's what I know. The western crowd flies... the Warbird servers, both western in nature, and Warclouds, western front. Many Russian servers see the light of day, mostly about the eastern front. G1 (G2 being about the Pacific), ADW, NullWar, the WarForFields that I fly on is ETO and populated mostly by Russian pilots, etc.

There are obvioulsy many exceptions, but on a general level, that is a trend that I see.

It's not right (or clever) to see a whole country in terms of the vocal nationalist few, but to think that all interests span all fronts is naive. People in America will have more of a connection with an American war, and that helps. It all depends how much that matters. For the older pilots who've been flying for a while, the flying might matter much more, but that is not the case for everyone. Maybe a young man (or woman) who has talked to a relative who owns an American built plane, or heard stories from WWII from a relative, or seen an American movie about American pilots or some such, might hold a particular interests in the events that he has had contact with, using the planes he has heard of, in the battles he's learned about. That's only natural. Let's not blind ourselves, much as we'd like it to be only about flight. Oleg still has numbers to consider.

That said, the more areas that are explored, the better. My interests lies more with the early war stuff, like the Spanish Civil War or the Battle for France, but I'll buy anything with a good flight model. I'm eagerly awaiting KOTS, BOB, RRG's sim, Black Shark, Fighter Ops, etc.

[311thCopperhead]

my concern is that we're never going to get back to the Pacific and have it done right. I think everyone will agree (that for whatever reason) Pacific Fighters wasn't a compleated product and was released unfinished. Korea & the PTO holds a lot of intrest for me. BoB...not so much. But a lack of compleate interst will not keep me from buying SoW bob. I'll follow the sim from start to finish the same way i did with Il-2...in hopes that one day we'll get back to the PTO. i waited close to 3 years for a P-47 in IL-2. I'm only hoping i don't have to wait that long gaain for one in SoW.

now don't get me wrong BoB is ok as a theater....it is the start of everything.
and if olegs plan is to begin @ the begining and follow a historical time line inthe seires..then that's where we need to start. It's just the planes in BoB that i lack interst in. I'll still by SoW....i just won't be as "into" it as much as i will when the sim produces the aircraft that do intrest me.

The eastern front intrests me. So those are the three i'm wiating for, Pacific, Korea, and back to the eastern front.

[CrazySchmidt]

I'd try any adaptation to the SoW series including a Star Wars version if it was on offer. It's the whole flight dynamics and graphical excellence thing that has me landed with 1C.

I couldn't give a moments thought to online game play quite frankly, apart from a few sessions with my Dad and brother which was quite fun.

CS.

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by CrazySchmidt

I couldn't give a moments thought to online game play quite frankly, apart from a few sessions with my Dad and brother which was quite fun.

CS.

Frankly until you have shot or been shot down online you have not truly experienced IL2 period.
Until you have flown your bomber through waves of slash attacking fighters, all who know how to decimate your bomber in a single burst you have not experienced Il2.
No matter how good the AI, the proof of any pilot is his ability to survive online and the success of Il2 in part is owed significantly to the online community who have kept IL2 alive.
Storm of War Bob will live and die by it's ability to deliver online playability.
Literally thousands of people fly Il2 online every day.
Il2 1946 has 154 servers worldwide with players from Russia, China, Japan and many more countries.

COD4 was released as an online game with a single player game attached. This is a new trend. When Call of Duty was first released way back when, it was a single player game with an online game attatched.
Mods like Il2 commander and its ilk have opened up the Il2 experience to millions.
I would be very surprised if Storm of War is not released with such tools built in and online play a major feature of the game.
Game developers have realised the value of the online market, look at the success of the Battlefield series...
All I pray is that they have the ability to deliver to both markets.

[Theshark888]

Originally Posted by Bobb4

Storm of War Bob will live and die by it's ability to deliver online playability.

I don't agree Bobb. The only way 1C will make a breakthrough hit is by doing the offline game correctly-which was kinda a problem with IL2. Hopefully a lesson was learned and more creativity and less engineering is put into SOW. I am talking making money for 1C not still seeing people playing an "old" game online 7 years after release!!

Sure, most of the 90% of offline players have probably moved away from IL2 but they are the ones who brought in the money. The 10% of online players are the real fans and the ones who keep the passion alive though.

[Bobb4]

Originally Posted by Theshark888

I don't agree Bobb. The only way 1C will make a breakthrough hit is by doing the offline game correctly-which was kinda a problem with IL2. Hopefully a lesson was learned and more creativity and less engineering is put into SOW. I am talking making money for 1C not still seeing people playing an "old" game online 7 years after release!!

Sure, most of the 90% of offline players have probably moved away from IL2 but they are the ones who brought in the money. The 10% of online players are the real fans and the ones who keep the passion alive though.

Valid point, never quite thought of it like that...
I stand corrected.

[jasonbirder]

the success of Il2 in part is owed significantly to the online community

The success of IL2 is down to a few thousand people that bought the game and fly it online...not the hundreds of thousands that bought it and never fly it/flew it online??? How does that work then? Do all you onliners stuff envelopes full of roubles and post them off to Oleg every week?

Storm of War Bob will live and die by it's ability to deliver online playability

I'd have thought it lived and died by its ability to appeal to thousands of purchasers...Not a tiny commercialy insignificant minority...

Literally thousands of people fly Il2 online every day

And if they had been the only people that bought it...it wouldn't have paid 1C's electricty bill...let alone kept the company in business