Luthier Update Clarification Please

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Poor ed

What's the matter bud? Your whole DX11 excuse you were trying to hang your hat on disappeared?

You poor thing.. let it go bud! Before you bust something you need!

I'm not getting upset at all. The fact is that the game won't run if you input the DX-11 command. lobi said as such.
but that leads back to what you said about the game mentioning 'support'
Jesus mate, I have said, can't you understand that the whole suggestion is that the game will be making use of the updated features of DX-11? (improved tesselation etc etc)? Of course you can read into it that the game 'can' make use of the feature for future installment, but game boxes don't generally list the features that will be made available.

Could we drop the childish vendetta mate? I chat openly and enthusiastically with all here. Mostly it's banter, but you dissect everything and take it completely out of context.

Can someone ban this Ace of Aces dickhead??

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

I'm not getting upset at all. The fact is that the game won't run if you input the DX-11 command. lobi said as such.
but that leads back to what you said about the game mentioning 'support'
Jesus mate, I have said, can't you understand that the whole suggestion is that the game will be making use of the updated features of DX-11? (improved tesselation etc etc)? Of course you can read into it that the game 'can' make use of the feature for future installment, but game boxes don't generally list the features that will be made available.

Could we drop the childish vendetta mate? I chat openly and enthusiastically with all here. Mostly it's banter, but you dissect everything and take it completely out of context.

So you now agree that CoD was not advertised as a DX11 game?

Ah good glad I could help! S!

[pupo162]

for someone i dont know, you know a awsome lot about me doctor phil.

anyway. you are right. We never got promised this gmae to be fully funcional. we werent promised stuter free gameplay, we were not promissed dx11.

this game is exactly as promised.

you win.

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by pupo162

for someone i dont know, you know a awsome lot about me doctor phil.

anyway. you are right. We never got promised this gmae to be fully funcional. we werent promised stuter free gameplay, we were not promissed dx11.

this game is exactly as promised.

you win.

For those who are reading this and not familiar with pupo162 know that he has nothing good to say about CoD. Why he is so negative, well that is one for the Freudian types out there. We don't need to know why he is, only that he is. With that said this reply to his post is not to him, it is to those who are not familiar with his agenda. So with that in mind allow me to point out how silly his latest attempt is. That being that 1C, UBI, or STEAM advertised CoD as DirectX 11 game.

Lets begin

Originally Posted by pupo162

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...251#post114251

Note he only provided '1' link to '1' post by Oleg back in October of 2009, Some two years ago, and nearly a year and a half before CoD was released. That is to say during the development of CoD. As as all 'adults' can tell you, things can change between development and delivery.

Also note that pupo162 did NOT quote what Oleg said in that post two years ago

Ask yourself.. Don't you think pupo162 would have quoted it here if this was the holly grail of proof that 1C, UBI, or STEAM promised a fully DirectX 11 game? Well there is a reason for that, pupo162 is hoping you will not click on the link and simply read pupo162's summary of what Oleg said as proof. Fact is any adult clicking on that link and reading what Oleg actually said will see that there is no promise that CoD will ultimately be a fully DirectX 11 game. As it does prove to us is that Oleg was looking into the differences between DX9, DX10, and DX11.

So out of the 'many' this was the best pupo162 could find?

Does that not tell you something?

Now allow me to actually post 'here' what Oleg said at that '1' link pupo162 provided, i.e.

Originally Posted by jctrnacty

I have a bad feeling, that this game will take rest of my free time

I Hope they will support DX11 as it is DX brakethrough like DX 9 was.

Keep in mind this post is TWO YEARS OLD! A good YEAR AND A HALF before CoD was released. Which means this conversation took place during the development of CoD.

Now ask yourself.. Do you see anything Oleg said in that post that could be construed as a promise that CoD would be a fully DX11 game?

I sure don't!

Now ask yourself.. What sort of person would read that and conclude what pupo162 concluded? Does that look like something an 'adult' mind would read and conclude, or something a 'child' like mind would read and conclude?

And by 'child' like I mean someone that has no real grasp on reality of PC games.

In that most adults realize..

Most if not all software/games are released with bugs
Things change between development and delivery

So in summary

As I pointed out, we received everything that was advertised (read promised) at the date of release. And below is a list of what was advertised. As you read the following, note, no mention what so ever of DX11

In order to play this game properly, your PC MUST meet or exceed these minimum system requirements:

Supported OS: Windows 7 / Vista SP2 / Windows XP SP3
Processor: 2.0 GHz Pentium Dual-Core or Athlon X2 3800+ (2.66 GHz Intel Core i5 or 2.6 GHz AMD Phenom II X4 recommended)
RAM: 2GB (4GB recommended)
Video Card: 512 MB DirectX 9.0c compliant video card (1 GB DirectX 10 recommended)(See supported List*)
DirectX: DirectX 9.0c or DirectX 10 (included on disc)
DVD-ROM Drive: 8X DVD-ROM
Sound Card: DirectX 9.0c compatible
Hard Disk Space: 10GB free hard disk space
Peripherals Supported: Mouse, keyboard (joystick with throttle and rudder control recommended)
Internet Connection: Broadband connection with 128 kbps upstream or faster

*Supported Video Cards at time of release:
ATI Radeon 4850 / 5000 / 6000 series or better
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 / 9000 / 250 / 460 series or better
Laptop versions of these cards may work but are NOT supported. These chipsets are the only ones that will run this game.
Joystick compatibility
Saitek PRO Flight Yoke / Saitek PRO Flight Rudder Pedals
Saitek X52
Saitek AV8R
Logitech Extreme 3D Pro
Logitech Attack 3
Microsoft Xbox 360 Controller Wired & Wireless (limited compatibility)
Most CH Products
Most Thrustmaster Products

Example of the above can be found at all of the following OFFICIAL links

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_U...ctID.224108000
http://ubisoft-en.custhelp.com/app/a...mum-requiremts
http://ubisoft.custhelp.com/app/answ...liffs-of-dover

So, not sure where this DX11 'myth' comes from? It surly didn't come from any official 1C, UBI, or STEAM web site. Some of which are over 6 months old. Note I don't have the box version, so at this point I can only assume that it is mentioned there? I mean this myth would have to be based on more that what pupo162 provided above.. Right? Assuming it is mentioned somewhere, go back a page or two and I think you will see that robtek already covered it.

[pupo162]

what have i done

[philip.ed]

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

So you now agree that CoD was not advertised as a DX11 game?

Ah good glad I could help! S!

Hahaha...
no. Completely wrong mate. (unless you were satisfying my last point?)

http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-o.../key-features/

New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support.

As I said. 'Support' can be taken into any context. I don't want to split hairs. As aforementioned, it is the same as the: 'dogs must be carried on lifts' sign. If you read it literally, it doesn't always fit the statement appropiately.

Shall we just agree to disagree mate? You won't change my opinion, and proving me wrong is impossible, in the same way that proving you wrong is impossible too.

Originally Posted by ACE-OF-ACES

Tvrdi.. You never answered my question.. If not the money than what is it that has you so upset about CoD?

My last answer for you trolly....I WAS upset (not anymore since now I can play this game) because I purchased a product which was released in alpha state (by all means). Thats a fact.
goodbye

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Hahaha...
no. Completely wrong mate. (unless you were satisfying my last point?)

http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-o.../key-features/

New 3D engine – Latest-gen graphics engine with DX10 and DX11 API support.

As I said. 'Support' can be taken into any context. I don't want to split hairs. As aforementioned, it is the same as the: 'dogs must be carried on lifts' sign. If you read it literally, it doesn't always fit the statement appropiately.

Shall we just agree to disagree mate? You won't change my opinion, and proving me wrong is impossible, in the same way that proving you wrong is impossible too.

Yes rob allready covered that, now, put support aside for a moment and at that same link you provided click on PC CONFIGURATION

http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-o...ion/index.aspx

And note that no where does it say DX 11

[ACE-OF-ACES]

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

My last answer for you trolly

If only!

Originally Posted by Tvrdi

....I WAS upset (not anymore since now I can play this game) because I purchased a product which was released in alpha state (by all means). Thats a fact. goodbye

Well I am glad your not upset now

I only wish you were aware of the FACT that most, if not all games (software in general) is released with bugs. That is to say it is unrealistic to expect there to be no bugs! Thus you being upset about that is.. well.. silly IMHO