just switched back to beta 15527-waoh!

[Jaws2002]

I got some breast milk ready to go if needed

Is that the only line you have? It's getting old, you know.

Originally Posted by sorak

The reflections are not out.. They are less noticeable.. which is better.. New Cockpit color and all colors in the new patch is so much more BETTER...

The reflections are not less noticeable, they are pretty much gone.
You are the only one around here that finds the latest beta better when it comes to looks.

Here are two very similar screens taken in the curent official version, first beta and the latest beta:

Official version:





first beta:





and the last beta:

[Jaws2002]

As you can see in the last beta the reflections are gone, the water looks flat and has the color of a stormy sea. Remember, part of the water color in the distance is given by the color of the sky that's reflected in the water. The blue sky reflected in the water should make the water look blue. Just simple fact.

The game lost a huge amount of beauty in the last beta. It lost the beautiful lightng, sea color and the beauty of the cockpits. This were some of the few strong points this game had.
If the final version looks anything like this last beta, this game is going to slowly die.

[CWMV]

Oh that just BS.
The strength of a simulator isn't in its reflections, its in performance.
If a game has really good visuals, but runs like poo, it won't make it. Sounds like CoD 1.2, yes?
But if it has rich content with a myriad of planes with accurate modeling in all aspects, lots of maps and easy to use fmb/qmb then it will live a long life.

I mean look at IL2. It looked like crap initially (neon green 109's anyone?) But it had much more going for it, and then the mod community was able to build on that and make it into an icon of combat flight sims.
Making these dooms day predictions because of the colors is just silly! Hell it might be that your monitor is simply out of adjustment. What will kill the game is a lack of content and a structure so unreliable that many can't play the game without having crashes, and botched FM's. Not to mention an obvious bias in the game to try to get the player to fly red lol.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by CWMV

Oh that just BS.
The strength of a simulator isn't in its reflections, its in performance.
If a game has really good visuals, but runs like poo, it won't make it. Sounds like CoD 1.2, yes?
But if it has rich content with a myriad of planes with accurate modeling in all aspects, lots of maps and easy to use fmb/qmb then it will live a long life.

I mean look at IL2. It looked like crap initially ( neon green 109's anyone?) But it had much more going for it, and then the mod community was able to build on that and them it into an icon of combat flight sim.
Making these downs day predictions because if the colors is just silly! Hell it might be that your monitor is simply out of adjustment. What will kill the game is a lack of content and a structure so unreliable that many can't play the game without having crashes, and botched FM's. Not to mention an obvious bias in the game to try to get the player to fly red lol.

I agree with you, but the problem with this game is that those things you say "make a flight sim", are badly lacking. The two things nobody complained and everyone loved from the start, were the cockpits and lighting engine. Now those are both messed up, and the things you say make a flight sim are not exactly there yet.
So what is there to keep people coming for more?

[CWMV]

Oh I know, what I meant was that it currently needs a lot more work than the colors, cause it doesn't have much going for it!
One thing that has improved though is playability, and if the price of having a more payable game is to take a hit in reflections, then so be it.

[CharveL]

Dunno, both look pretty good to me in their own way. And flying the latest hasn't looked bad at all, perhaps just a bit more what I'd expect expect the colour variance to look like from altitude.

The water looks better in the old patch because it still has cloud reflections on so I'd venture to guess they turned it off for now to save a few frames. I expect we'll eventually see an option to turn them back on.

Like someone else said, I'd rather see them working on a bunch of other stuff for now. My main wishlist right now is to just keep working on the sound.

I couldn't go back for just a different colour algorithm considering the AI isn't so spastic in the latest patch.