External sounds audible in cockpit with engine running?

[David198502]

im still not really sure if its realistic or not, to hear outside noise while beeing in the cockpit...can you hear other planes when they are really close in reality?can you hear gunfire from other planes?should you be able to perceive explosions when planes hit the ground?if all that is not realistic, then i would vote for make the sounds optional, cause im all for realism and would therefore play without them, but they are really nice and it would be a pity to delete them completely.

so i didnt vote

[klem]

Originally Posted by Skoshi Tiger

Can't vote as the questions are loaded towards a specific outcome for the poll.

You should have had. "Yes, but only where sound(s) could realistically be heard under the ambient conditions."

Cheers!

+1

No-brainer

[Redroach]

I take the "Yes" votes (including mine) as a form of protest against the ongoing stupidity of those folks

[AA_Absolute]

No, no and no...

Boring to death of IL2 "sonic radar".

In IL2 lots of virtual pilots preventing sneak attacks hearing other planes engine by "special" audio configurations, i hate it. One of the bad unresolved bugs of IL2.

S!

[ATAG_Snapper]

Originally Posted by droz

Just curious if you have ever actually flown a real aircraft. If you have, then you'd realize that you can hear all sorts of sounds outside the cockpit.

I've never flown any of the aircraft featured in Cliffs of Dover, but I've flown a North American Harvard. It's a WW2-era aircraft and you cannot hear a thing over the engine sound other than the radio speaker in your helmet. Perhaps Merlins, DB601's, and Jumos, etc. are significantly quieter in the cockpit than P&W Wasp radial engines -- that I wouldn't know.

That said, I didn't vote since there was no realism option offered in this poll. Otherwise, it's a fair question IMHO.

EDIT: Brian Lane in his book "Spitfire!" comments that he can hear near-bursting AA fire - something worth consideration in CoD.

[SYN_Repent]

Originally Posted by Snapper

I've never flown any of the aircraft featured in Cliffs of Dover, but I've flown a North American Harvard. It's a WW2-era aircraft and you cannot hear a thing over the engine sound other than the radio speaker in your helmet. Perhaps Merlins, DB601's, and Jumos, etc. are significantly quieter in the cockpit than P&W Wasp radial engines -- that I wouldn't know.

in this example YOU didnt hear a thing over the engine sound, but YOU didnt have 8 browning .303's to fire, or 6 .50 cals firing at you, or other high performance aircraft engines screaming past you.

[Flanker35M]

S!

Just remove that damned sonar from the game. Not a single veteran I have talked to mentioned they could HEAR an enemy plane approaching. They relied on their eyes and therefore had a CONSTANT look around.

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by droz

Just curious if you have ever actually flown a real aircraft. If you have, then you'd realize that you can hear all sorts of sounds outside the cockpit.

well i couldnt hear absolutely nothing but my plane whinning.. .and not that big of an engine too.

[SYN_Repent]

this is it, again....pupo, what situation was you in in order for there to be louder sounds than an airplane engine around you??

[pupo162]

Originally Posted by SYN_Repent

this is it, again....pupo, what situation was you in in order for there to be louder sounds than an airplane engine around you??

well... the closest ive been to a situation where in il2 you can hear ambient sounds was formation flying within 3 meters from other plane. No noise. not even when we trolled up and breaked formation. Also, they didnt hear as sneaking in behind and shitted the crap of my other mate when we suddently popped up next to them saying hi.

But no, i havnet fired 20mm cannons from my plane ( wich i voted to be on), flew 109 with a spitfire firing behind me, had a 109 zooming pass me, nor AAA shoot at me. to young for that i guess.