The Battle of Britain Was The First Defeat For The German Luftwaffe.

[trashcanman]

Originally Posted by MB_Avro_UK

Hi all,

I have been reading a book entitled:

Best of Enemies. Britain and Germany. Truth and Lies in Two World Wars.

Author is Richard Milton.

Britain and Germany according to Milton were prior to WW1 close allies. They had a shared culture and a shared Royal Family. WW1 was expected to involve Germany and Britain as Allies against the French.

But after the start of WW1, the propaganda machines of both Britain and Germany changed the situation for ever.

Best Regards,
MB_Avro.

Excellent TrollGrenade Avro

1904 Entende Cordiale? Throw this book away, it probably has a chapter on wooden Spitfires

Trig, an excellent reply to the nonsense however you are attempting to change the minds of committed apologists for the Nationalist Socialist Party.

As sad as it is, these people will attempt to equate Belsen and Aushcwitz to Hamburg and Dresden whilst conveniently forgetting Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, Portsmouth, Coventry, Liverpool, Bristol and the many others where they sowed the seeds.

It was not nice however war never is. 150-200,000 civilians have died in Iraq since it was invaded however none of them were processed through industrial killing facilities.

That is the difference.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by trashcanman

Trig, an excellent reply to the nonsense however you are attempting to change the minds of committed apologists for the Nationalist Socialist Party.

As I reached the end of the thread I see Kendo had already put it more eloquently than I managed.

As sad as it is, these people will attempt to equate Belsen and Aushcwitz to Hamburg and Dresden whilst conveniently forgetting Guernica, Warsaw, Rotterdam, London, Portsmouth, Coventry, Liverpool, Bristol and the many others where they sowed the seeds.

It was not nice however war never is. 150-200,000 civilians have died in Iraq since it was invaded however none of them were processed through industrial killing facilities.

That is the difference.

Personally I wasn't drawing distinction between Hamburg, Dresden, London, Coventry etc (no bias to which side), it's the killing of people that you already control that I pick out. Let's not even start with Stalin.

PS - I totally own this page

I'll come back in a few days to see what's happening with the patch, and hopefully this thread will have disappered.

[Frequent_Flyer]

Originally Posted by Triggaaar

As I reached the end of the thread I see Kendo had already put it more eloquently than I managed.

Personally I wasn't drawing distinction between Hamburg, Dresden, London, Coventry etc (no bias to which side), it's the killing of people that you already control that I pick out. Let's not even start with Stalin.

PS - I totally own this page

I'll come back in a few days to see what's happening with the patch, and hopefully this thread will have disappered.

My money is on the patch dissappearing.

[adonys]

well, on a philosophical perspective.. it seems that the vast majority of the people, no matter the time or era, are blind and deaf and stupid idiots, who would not see the forest from the trees.

There's no point in trying to debate this, as long as people are throwing in name calling, and view any attempt to look at any other (god forbid to try and do it from the german) point of view than the british/allied one as neo-nazism or worse..

This is the main reason history repeat itself, and it's a very sad thing to see..

[JimmyBlonde]

I'm thinking on starting a pool to bet on whether this thread will hit 100 pages. Any takers?

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by adonys

it seems that the vast majority of the people... are blind and deaf and stupid idiots

There's no point in trying to debate this, as long as people are throwing in name calling

Brilliant. Stunning work.

And now you're suggesting that our point of view is going to lead to history repeating itself. I don't understand that at all. I think that killing is bad, so how can that viewpoint lead to another war?

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

People will believe what their governments tell them to believe, and yet we wonder why the Germans didn't do more to oppose their government. Same question should be asked now of each of our respective governments, but people prefer to be sheep.

Speak for yourself.

[DD_crash]

I think that this is how stern sees it.
Possible outcomes for Germany : Win or Draw
Possible outcome for Britain : Loose or Draw.
We are on a hiding to nothing then.
This thread has developed like Monty Pythons argument sketch

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by DD_crash

I think that this is how stern sees it.
Possible outcomes for Germany : Win or Draw
Possible outcome for Britain : Loose or Draw.
We are on a hiding to nothing then.
This thread has developed like Monty Pythons argument sketch

No it hasn't.

[Triggaaar]

Originally Posted by DD_crash

This thread has developed like Monty Pythons argument sketch

I'm sorry to resort to insults, but it's like arguing with a 6 year old.