Daidalos Team's Room -QUESTIONS AND REQUESTS ONLY - For 4.11

[Stealth_Eagle]

Two requests that I have:

1. A flyable B-26B with the wing enhancements (extending of the wing by 3 feet so you wouldn't have to land extremely fast relative to other aircraft)

2. Workable catapults like the mod does (I don't know if the mod is good enough for it since I always run my IL-2 games clean) as well as improved ship functions such as below decks on carriers (that was initially planned to be part of pacific fighters but never came through)

3. More surface ships (If someone will teach me how, I'll possibly work on some so we don't just have 3 merchant ships and only a limited number of German and British warships but someone else will have to do the skinning)

4. Skins for ships rather than having several examples of the same kind of ship like the Japanese carriers.

[ElAurens]

The early B26s were the better aircraft in combat.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by Stealth_Eagle

Two requests that I have:

That's actually four.

Originally Posted by Stealth_Eagle

1. A flyable B-26B with the wing enhancements (extending of the wing by 3 feet so you wouldn't have to land extremely fast relative to other aircraft)

Add it to the pile of requests for official aircraft. There's a modded B-26B frankenplane, though. It works reasonably well.

Originally Posted by Stealth_Eagle

2. Workable catapults like the mod does (I don't know if the mod is good enough for it since I always run my IL-2 games clean) as well as improved ship functions such as below decks on carriers (that was initially planned to be part of pacific fighters but never came through)

Catapults are available as a mod and would be sort of useful as an official add-on. I don't see much point to below decks hangars on aircraft carriers, since that's mostly the domain of the mechanics and other ground crew. IL2 is a flight simulator, not a ship and aircraft maintenance simulator. Working elevators which make aircraft on deck "vanish" or magically appear would be sort of cool, but it's a real low priority.

Originally Posted by Stealth_Eagle

3. More surface ships

Again, available as a whole variety of mods. Also, according to rumors there will be more ships in official DT patches. While the list of U.S. ships is limited by the NG agreement, there are no restrictions on ships of other nationalities (i.e., British, Italian, Japanese, Soviet, German), and no restrictions on the sort of small craft which were the typical prey of strike fighters.

Ships fall between aircraft and land vehicles and ground objects in terms of modding difficulty. There are tutorials on how to get ships into the game on various modding websites, but nothing official.

Originally Posted by Stealth_Eagle

4. Skins for ships rather than having several examples of the same kind of ship like the Japanese carriers.

I agree that the ability to skin ships would be convenient. Not only could you update camo patterns by year, and make hack skins so that ships of one country could stand in for those of another, but you could apply skins to differentiate ships of the same class (e.g., the various U.S. CVL).

Who knows what the coding would be like to get this feature into the game, though? Again, IL2 is a flight simulator, not a ship simulator. The only reason that ships exist is as landing places, mobile flak batteries and/or targets. Most players probably don't give a rat's hindquarters that the U.S. Mahan class destroyer isn't in the game or that the Fletcher class destroyers all have the same camo scheme and that it never varies from 1941 to 1945. So, potentially a lot of work for little practical improvement to the game.

[ElAurens]

Skinning ships would be a good thing.

The Russian Marat BB would make a good stand in for the Fuso or Ise.

[Xilon_x]

WW2 whit need war ships i not call ww2 but i call stupid game.
yes il-2 is a air simulation but in the object list i loock russian american english and german list of navy where are the italian navy(ROMA)? where is FLOTTIGLIA X MASS?
this is not respect for ww2 naval story.
in il-2 exist air combat and aereonaval combat i agree if you adding a catapult sistem and elevator to carrier and ship.
MISSING the super important WAR SHIP BIG IN THE WORLD ----THE YAMATO--- this is not respect for naval history.

ALSO the TANKS WHERE IS THE ITALIAN AND FRANCE TANKS in the object list i noot see this.

[MicroWave]

Originally Posted by Xilon_x

WW2 whit need war ships i not call ww2 but i call stupid game.
yes il-2 is a air simulation but in the object list i loock russian american english and german list of navy where are the italian navy(ROMA)? where is FLOTTIGLIA X MASS?
this is not respect for ww2 naval story.
in il-2 exist air combat and aereonaval combat i agree if you adding a catapult sistem and elevator to carrier and ship.
MISSING the super important WAR SHIP BIG IN THE WORLD ----THE YAMATO--- this is not respect for naval history.

ALSO the TANKS WHERE IS THE ITALIAN AND FRANCE TANKS in the object list i noot see this.

Someone has to build them. It's not like there is a pool from where developers just pick stuff they like.
Fortunately for you, someone built something from your list.

[Pursuivant]

Originally Posted by MicroWave

Someone has to build them. It's not like there is a pool from where developers just pick stuff they like.
Fortunately for you, someone built something from your list.

There's also the problem that DT is prevented by their license with 1c from modeling the Mediterranean Theater of Operations, which seriously limits the Italian equipment available in the game. Likewise, DT is prevented from modeling the Battle of Britain era, which limits the French equipment available.

And, not to be disrespectful to either the French or the Italians, but France was pretty much out of the war by 1941 and Italy was pretty much out of the war by the end of 1942. Certainly, French and Italian units continued to fight on, but they mostly used machines made by other countries (e.g., Germany, U.S., U.K.) to do it.

That said, there are independent efforts afoot to create Italian and French ships, planes and armor. They're just proceeding relatively quietly.

As for the IJN Yamato, it was a colossal waste of money and resources. Sure it was the biggest battleship in the world, but by 1942 that just made it a great big target. It was obsolete the day it was launched. Still, it looks like the Yamato will be in some future patch, so IL2 players will get the thrill of reenacting operation Ten-Go from the point of view of the Americans, I just wish that we had a proper SB2C Helldiver to bomb it with.

[Xilon_x]

ok ok.... There's also the problem that DT is prevented by their license with 1c from modeling the Mediterranean Theater of Operations, which seriously limits the Italian equipment available in the game. Likewise, DT is prevented from modeling the Battle of Britain era, which limits the French equipment available.

MEDITERRAIN no is proibited
BATTLE OF BRITTAIN no is proibited


remain the BALKANS war ITALY GREECE
or REMAIN the RUSSIAN mission over BATTLE STALINGRATO
or remain the FRANCE germany attak france and italy attak south france especiale wen FRANCE and ENGLAND attak the port of GENOVA.
remain spanisc civil war and
final remain the post ww2 era the corea or suez crisis.