Ambient light effect petition

[skouras]

i voted yes
i can't understand why they put things and later remove them
i like the reflections on gauges right now and how the cockpits look
but can we still have them in future
who knows.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ye_VY1aV3Zg

i think the release iteration of CLOD was in many ways the best, the woods and all materials really has a certain something about them, then we got a daylight update, and then we got the severe shine everywhere patch ! . what i think is best is a blend of the initiall with the colour fix and just a bit more shine.


i also think that there is no worries wether it will be back.

kinda get the feeling the new graphics algorythmns luthier spoke of are a bit more indepth and that the game itself is half way between one methodology and another that when completed will see see all these aspects working harmoniously and without fault providing better performance too. role on the official sept '11 CLOD patch !

[Stefem]

Originally Posted by Strike

Hi guys!

Just wanted to share with you an effect that was initially released with the game, but later withdrawn through a patch some time ago. It's the ambient light reflections that you'll see when looking at the aircraft from shallow angles.


This is ALL very matte paint, but you clearly see the nice realistic look to it, and it USED to be ingame, it has just been removed.

I want a hands up on everyone who wants it back!

I think it was removed because it makes the plane look wet and such reflection where affecting the whole plane including exhaust manifold and any other non reflective parts.

[Ekar]

Originally Posted by Strike

Hi guys!
This is ALL very matte paint, but you clearly see the nice realistic look to it, and it USED to be ingame, it has just been removed.

I want a hands up on everyone who wants it back!

Hi Strike. The effect you're describing is Fresnel reflections, or the way in which many materials reflect more at shallow angles than at facing ones. Typically, metals don't display the properties of fresnel reflections (they are more consistently reflective across all angles), but a painted plane would.


Here's a very shiny Spitfire. (FF to 3:34) I have no idea if this is standard or has been 'buffed up' for show purposes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b8NO...ailpage#t=216s

I do believe that the planes ingame could be a bit shinier than they are currently (maybe not this extreme?).

[ARM505]

So, to sum the OP:
"A cool graphical effect has been removed at some point after the MASSIVE forum whine about poor fps/performance"

Hmmmm, not seeing the surprising part here...so saying 'I can't believe they dropped it after it was there already' sounds a little naive to me. We want cool graphical effects, awesome mathematical modelling sim-wise, and high fps?

Very good examples and spotting of the change by the OP, but like I said, it's not like it's a giant surprise that they're dropping low key effects like this. Which definitely add to the look, I agree.

As always - I suppose the best would be to have an option for it, either in some .ini/.cfg, or the menu somewhere.

[Topo]

I did not vote, because i'm waiting for the new graphics engine, and if there is an improvement in FPS agree to the return of this effect.
But only if it is allowed by an improvement in FPS.

Saluti

[SQB]

I would be interested to know why this couldn't be added as an option, certainly if it is turned off it wouldn't effect FPS, making the fps complainers (me included) happy, and when turned on it could look really good for screenshot takers and people with beastly rigs.

So.. add it as an option maybe?

[Phazon]

Are you talking about screen-space ambient occlusion (SSAO)? Because that is still in the game, it just got changed from being always on to an option in the video settings menu. Maybe try turning it on and see if the effect returns? It hits the framerate though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_...ient_Occlusion

[Shado]

On my own on this I guess, visually I dont like the new patch I'm afraid, why cant they just leave the plane's alone, I certainly dont want that "high gloss" look back it covered everything including weathering, semi is fine.

Take the gamma now, again I guess i'm alone on this one but on my system it just looks pants, maybe it's just me, the land colours are good but I didnt have a problem with the originals.

Fix the Spitfire please stop enforced weathering on that model, we will add our own, and the Bomber cockpits, whats going on there, I know they were not that dirty, they wouldnt be able to fly let alone bomb anything.

Slowly this is turning into WOP graphically

Hey Herman, I think were lost.



The gamma in the FMB



They keep poking, fix the things that need to be fixed but for the love of this sim dont break those things that aint.

[baronWastelan]

The 1st Rule of CloD: 1 thing made better, 1 other thing made worse.