would be posible to give the customer option for a non violent game?

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

Interesting...... so one would assume your version of paradise or whatever is a world full of fat drug addicted people with no ambition, because ambition is the evil that leads people to become better than others and therefore considered elite, and also nobody would pay taxes so we would live in giant piles of filth in the dark with no water or any other infrastructure for that matter......I'm sorry but I just dont buy into the cospiracy theorists ideology, I don't believe the goverment is out to kill us nor are the monarchy even if they don't give a toss about us......but killing them just because we are jealous of their standing in life? thats ridiculous.

your post is full of logical fallacy lets break it down....
alcohol is legal and you dont have everyone in society drunk all the time....just cuz drugs may be legal would not mean everyone would do them...sorta like if murder was not a crime..people wouldnt be killing people all of a sudden....you see most people are not small minded fools who live life according to the laws of the state....most people dont use drugs not because its illegal but because they choose not to far various reasons....just like most people dont kill others because its illegal but because its something they are morally opposed to and because they value life...you really think that with out govt their would be trash in the street and no water??? so people can not organize with out a govt??

tell me if govt dosent want to harm us why do they allow the fda to allow dangerous drugs that are known to be harmful why do they put FLOURIDE in the water?? i mean to keep our teeth safe, when systemically ingesting flouride is very harmful to the health (or the reason why they make "baby water that is bottled and fluoridated)....is that why they allow BPA in many products....just another small minded person who uses logical fallacy of calling some thing 'conspiracy theory" to try and disprove what is generally well known....you do realize that those in power DO conspire...go read a dictionary...I guess we give children a cocktale of amphetamines because we care about them...because for a child to be distracted or not interested in things they dont really care about, is abnormal...go read about the medical and even more so psychology industry(listen to insiders of the industry), and how based on their actions and fruits, they are not out to heal the sick...you think if they were these prescriptions that are all over the place would probably be a bit more,effective and alot less harmful than they are...)

so why was their a concerted effort in the last few hundred years to eliminate the native peoples of the americas??(backed by the church and many monarchies..) because they want to suppress those cultures, who were above being controlled by forms of govt and banking that was prevalent in europe....the natives in the americas had no use for the banks and monarchies of europe, that was untill we destroyed their culture....

seriously you need to get out more and open your eyes....those in power dont care about you, or anyone else...

you know what else would happen if no one paid taxes...no more war...no more billons of dollars to send to 'rebels' who are or were enemy #1 (remember the rebels in the middle east are largely alqueda, even the supposed leader of the lybian rebels were even kidnapped rendered and tortured at a black site by the usa) but yea the us never formed alqueda as an intelligence asset, to fight the russians, i guess that never happened and will never happen..now these freedom fighters are the same people who are rounding up blacks and abusing or killing them(they have been doing this for months), and i guess that is on the usa since we were the one who supported them......

you say that i am jealous of those who are in power....but i have no desire to be able to dictate the terms of living to others...i actually believe in freedom and what a free society means, which is unless you infringe on the rights of others are aught to be left alone...you see im not another small minded person who just wants to be rich and powerful all i want is to be happy and success in whatever it is i do...after all money (cash) is fiat and worthless and the sooner people realize this the better....i have no desire to achieve power over OTHERS...the only thing that i want to impose on to others is liberty and freedom...

govt war medicine banks criminal justice system especially in todays world is a racket, its a means to siphon money from those who have it and work for it, to those who want more of it...

[bongodriver]

You have no right to impose anything on anybody....even if it is something as noble as liberty......so no taxes doesn't mean no infrastructure?......right , I'm affraid there would be no civilisation withou an hierarchical structure.....no civilisation....no infrastructure....just mud huts or teepees....yep back to the stone age it would be....but hey at least you would be able to smoke all the weed you wanted and not pretend it is 'for the pain'

yes alchohol is legal and some drugs are not....that is why the police arrest people who take illegal drugs....it's their job, most people dont take illegal drugs because they dont want to become socially inadequate zombies who need to commit crime to feed their addictions, I would argue most people would commit murder if it were legal, I dare say under those circumstances a face to face between us would be interesting, you sound unbalanced enough to try to kill me for having a different oppinion, fluoride in water......yeah.....people are dropping like flies all around me from fluoride poisoning.....but only the stuff in our water not the stuff in our toothpaste.

I really don't need to get out more....honestly, I travel the world quite alot, I don't need to read any more either, why do you assume I am uneducated just because I don't see it your way?

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

You have no right to impose anything on anybody....even if it is something as noble as liberty......so no taxes doesn't mean no infrastructure?......right , I'm affraid there would be no civilisation withou an hierarchical structure.....no civilisation....no infrastructure....just mud huts or teepees....yep back to the stone age it would be....but hey at least you would be able to smoke all the weed you wanted and not pretend it is 'for the pain'

yes alchohol is legal and some drugs are not....that is why the police arrest people who take illegal drugs....it's their job, most people dont take illegal drugs because they dont want to become socially inadequate zombies who need to commit crime to feed their addictions, I would argue most people would commit murder if it were legal, I dare say under those circumstances a face to face between us would be interesting, you sound unbalanced enough to try to kill me for having a different oppinion, fluoride in water......yeah.....people are dropping like flies all around me from fluoride poisoning.....but only the stuff in our water not the stuff in our toothpaste.

I really don't need to get out more....honestly, I travel the world quite alot, I don't need to read any more either, why do you assume I am uneducated just because I don't see it your way?

umm flouride dosent KILL (in most cases) it causes alot of joint and bone problems...and also some studies show thyroid issues as well...please do some reading and educate yourself....you see the difference between water and tooth paste is that people dont ingest toothpaste systemically..and even tooth paste has a warning label that states if swallow more than you use to brush your teeth you should contact poison control centers....but you wouldnt know that, you would have to read to find that out...also the flouride in our tooth paste is pharmaceutical grade, the stuff they put in the water is not...
please educate your self on the topics on hand instead of just stating the obvious, in an attempt to fallaciously refute my statement....

"I would argue most people would commit murder if it were legal"

if that is the case then the human race is truly doomed..

i guess unbalanced is thinking for ones self and not being totally subservient to govt, or the establishment...

i mean the fact that drugs have been illegal is something that is historically something very new....you talk as if this was always the norm...when it is in fact a very recent development in society, and one that has probably cause more harm than good...this is obvious....prohibition does not work in any context...not to mention prohibition is incomparable with a free society as well...

also to impose freedom upon people is a misnomer, technically people are born free...it is impossible to impose freedom upon people, people are inherently free, what is imposed upon them is essentially limits to those freedoms...this is something i do no want to do...if anything i want to perpetuate the status of the individual as a free and sovereign entity...

also as i have stated in a free society the only thing that a crime is something that directly infringes on the rights of others...stealing from people and trying to harm them or kill them is infringing on their rights...when somoene infringes on your rights, you have the right to defend your self even if this means you must use violence or kill, then so be it....

[bongodriver]

And the goverments benefit from poisoning us with fluoride how?..........are you saying the master plan is to disable the human race with bad joints?

[tk471138]

Originally Posted by bongodriver

And the goverments benefit from poisoning us with fluoride how?..........are you saying the master plan is to disable the human race with bad joints?No sorry to burst your bubble but thats not true, I have more experience than you might credit me, but the paranoia can be felt as a feeling of persecution from your own peers and not just woorying wether the 'pigs' are coming to bust you.

i dont know the master plan...all i know how to do is look up what fluoride is and what scientists have found about it...all i know is that they lobby for fluoride and other poisons to be added to common products...the why has been speculated upon, but is not important...because it dosent matter why they are trying to make us sick just that they are and we must stop it...also fluoride is known to be a drug that minimizes or dumbs down behavior...thats why its a part of many antidepressants...their are some sources that state the fluoride was used in prison camps in russia to make the prisoners more docile...and other sources say that nazis used it in concentration camps, however this is unproven and probably false...


hmm and why do some peers persecute one for using drugs...first of all i dont find many people who persecute others for using cannabis...most people dont mind it, my parents have adult friends who are successful and use cannabis daily, its a none issue...most people dont care about how others judge them for arbitrary things...when teens are driving around smoking blunts they dont care about what the guy smoking the blunt next to them thinks about them but the fact that they could be pulled over and arrested, and their freedoms infringed upon...so first you say that cannabis causes paranoia then you say that this paranoia instead originates from the mind and its fear of persecution...please make up your mind instead of backtracking...


cannabis is a none issue its practically harmless, more harm comes from the combusted plant matter, and not the psychoactive compounds...the reason why its illegal is obvious, and that is to create yet another black market product and to suppress technology in favor or petroleum based products, not to mention using laws as a form of social control and behavior modification...but i guess you want to keep perpetuating this...

people who use drugs should not be faced with criminal penalties...and if they commit a crime we have laws for those and they will be faced with criminal penalties, but not before they actually commit a criminal offense

[JG52Krupi]

Can you guys argue elsewhere please.

[bongodriver]

Please stop 'telling' me to educate myself....it is insulting, I am being quite polite I would wish for the same courtesy.

My take on water fluoridation is to prevent tooth decay....pure and simple, there is as much evidence it works in this goal as there is suggestion it is being used at any harmful level.

I never suggester peers would persecute you for taking drugs.....I was highlighting the irrational paranoia some feel that everybody is talking about them....what are they saying?.....everybody is against me!!....oh my god they are all conspiring behind my back...when your buddies are simply having a light hearted giggle at your expense sort of persecution, and there was no backtracking at all (where the hell did you see a backtrack?) I am speaking from experience.......so please don't ask me to educate myself again.

Canabis is harmless?......typical slavish view of a hard line pro canabis activist, biggest regret of my life was the 10 years I wasted through it, and at least one of my close friends is destroying his because of it.