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12-27-2007, 10:45 PM
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as before I could join HL and feel very confident of the 1,000 there, that it would be a rare occurance to run into a cheater and once known, easy enough to blow off............Now however, in that many mods, not just a few yet many grant advantage over the stock game......I can feel very confident that NO mission I fly in is hack/cheat free.
It is your responsibility, as all others here, as it was up to us as members of a community to protect what is the foundation of our community the sim.......To support the contrary, shirking ones responsibility and stating clearly what path you've chosen....as I said above; "Once having chosen a path most follow it to its end......Call me a Cynic, yet the work of the modders of "all groups" (those posting here just a small fraction YET could of taken a leadership role, refused), and sadly the cheaters using their work has just begun." p.s.....the modders broke it, up to them to fix it or are the non-modders to have to take up the yoke of responsibility again as well as the modders go about their merry uncaring way?..........Sadly how it is hon, not a slam to you directly, yet one to all who support a wrong. Wait for it............ K2
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12-27-2007, 10:52 PM
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12-27-2007, 11:14 PM
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Has anyone considered the possibility that, as a result of the ability to fly such long awaited planes like the big bombers, or in my case the TBM, that 1:C may see a resurgence of sales of 1946? How many times over the past several years have we seen people post in the various forums, asking if this, or that plane were available to fly in this sim? I wonder if they might have passed on 1946 (or any of the previous versions) simply because their favorite plane was AI only? I wonder how many of those will be inclined to buy it now? There's no question that the game has been immensely improved by the sound mod. It's like a whole new game. The concerns of the un-modded about cheating seems to be misplaced as long as the public servers out there are able to exclude someone with a modded version. Yet, anyone can fly on a mod friendly server, and can do so at their own discretion. I don't see any conflict. Why all the animosity in here?
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12-27-2007, 11:17 PM
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...meaning "that group" could have if having made an effort made themselves not only the focal point of all the modding communities, dictated what was acceptable and what wasn't, helped developed ways to prevent cheating, and even converted the community to a whole by simply being responsible. Unfortunately, they have instead simply focussed on their own wants openly challenging any truth as to the matter if contrary to those wants........So a situation that simply grows worse yet ONLY in their hands to correct. It IS the responsibility for all to take a side, the "crack analogy" very true as...... If you fight it you encourage it to be driven from your community as unacceptable.... If you support it, use it, fight for it even if just for yourself then you are trying to make it acceptable in your community (as if no one uses it, no one would make it....) If you do nothing, and do not take a stand, then as with all things it will be taken as you don't care, and therefor find it acceptable. We all no matter how insignificant we may think we are, affect the communities we're part of for good or bad........We're all responsible for it like it or not. Wait for it........ K2
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12-27-2007, 11:38 PM
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hmmm... to mod or not to mod that is the question ! now ... i'm getting my 4.09 beta tomorrow ( cos 56k) from friend and after reading all those post with accusations and distrust why the hell i still have dilemma ? And i'm openly saying here : i know how to mod pretty much every part (aspect) of the game.
So Billfish if you are right then i'm troubling myself with no reason...
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12-27-2007, 11:53 PM
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What is done - is done. It cannot be undone.
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12-28-2007, 02:30 AM
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From the guy that loves every mod at that site, FM, DM, WM modding, frankenplanes and disputes nothing, whatever it is, anything and everything goes. If thats all you have to contribute, why type anything? |
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12-28-2007, 03:24 AM
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Infact you're so wrong its not funny. I dispute quite a lot - and am one of those who keeps reminding people over there that FM/DM/WM arent warrented there! Infact I believe my point is rather correct - STOP your bitchin' and moaning - it aint going to change nothing! Last edited by RAF_Magpie; 12-28-2007 at 03:30 AM. |
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12-28-2007, 03:39 AM
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Dooh...not very sharp for a razor.
“The concerns of the un-modded about cheating seems to be misplaced as long as the public servers out there are able to exclude someone with a modded version. Yet, anyone can fly on a mod friendly server, and can do so at their own discretion. I don't see any conflict.” Maybe you should learn to read and/or take the time to read before all the books are burned. Many of us would really appreciate you doing this before you overwhelm our tiny brains with your massive wisdom. Over 21,000 views, 850 replies and 85 pages in this thread (You might start there) Its been proven and stated again and again as well as acknowledged by both sides, that 4.08m servers can not block the many cheats that have been developed through the use of the sound hack. (Translation: Public 4.08m Servers can NOT exclude the mods/cheats and that is where the “conflict” is.) My guess is most players don't care about what goes on in a checkruntime=0 server as long as there is a future checkruntime=x to go to for good clean fun. The hope lies with the “4.09 server" edition having better anti mod/cheat measures. Last edited by HanzBlixz; 12-28-2007 at 04:43 AM. |
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