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[zapatista]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder

Surely if it was such a great community, you wouldn't have to worry about people cheating you, the moment the opportunity became available?

i often find your sense of logic hard to follow. you make leaps and bounds between totally unrelated factors and blend them into a soup

yes, its great that you can find online servers with other enthusiasts on it from around the world, and having a level playing field.

how do you suddenly equate that with it not mattering that you can now join those same servers with hacks and other forms of cheating, and that the use of those hacks and cheats is unrestricted and remains undetected ? or that those same hack users not caring about the disruption caused to legitimate users ?

[LEXX]

Originally Posted by jasonbirder::

Surely if it was such a great community, you wouldn't have to worry about people cheating you, the moment the opportunity became available?

Originally Posted by zapatista

i often find your [jasonbirder] sense of logic hard to follow. you make leaps and bounds between totally unrelated factors and blend them into a soup

yes, its great that you can find online servers with other enthusiasts on it from around the world, and having a level playing field.

how do you suddenly equate that with it not mattering that you can now join those same servers with hacks and other forms of cheating, and that the use of those hacks and cheats is unrestricted and remains undetected ? or that those same hack users not caring about the disruption caused to legitimate users ?

Jasonbirder has offered us a too brief although deep insight into how a small minority of cheating players might negatively effect the otherwise great anonymous public server community when a possibility arises. As we covered last page, hostile or non-cooperative gamer behavior on anonymous public servers -- along with older cheats and exploits -- long before this mod/hack appeared is why many Online players retreated to private servers or even escaped back to Offline play. This long history of social behavioral problems on the FB/PF anonymous public servers shows that cheaters may be waiting to jump upon any opportunity that may arise.

However, we cannot assume that anonymous public server gameplay is the only gameplay that Oleg's customers are interested in. I think we are confusing the desire felt by many of Oleg's customers to improve alternative forms of gameplay with the desire by a few to cheat in the anonymous public servers. The solution for all of Oleg's customers would be an effective version split, say...

(1) Unhacked 4.09 for those hoping for cheat-free anonymous public server gameplay and those wanting to use new 4.09 features for any form of gameplay, including Newbies to the online aspect of the sim who would see this version first and only later (a good reason for the ubizoo Mod censoring) learn about....

(2) Hacked or unofficially "moddable" 4.08 that allows Oleg's customers to customize their sim in new ways that allow deeper simulation immersion for those who desire it.

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mutant mods

Good one!

[FA_Retro-Burn]

Well, I hope the server admin's institute some kind of I.P. ban on those offenders. As a member of the Winds of War, I have not seen any complaints thus far on our server.

[JG27_brook]

Originally Posted by FA_Retro-Burn

Well, I hope the server admin's institute some kind of I.P. ban on those offenders. As a member of the Winds of War, I have not seen any complaints thus far on our server.

WC does the same , WCWF we try too run a clean server , with no buts