UFO's and extra-terrestrial life

[Rattlehead]

I must admit that Steven Greer sounds like a nut. I read that one book of his (Disclosure Project) and much in it sounded plausible, but I had no idea of his other claims.

[CharveL]

Originally Posted by Rattlehead

I must admit that Steven Greer sounds like a nut. I read that one book of his (Disclosure Project) and much in it sounded plausible, but I had no idea of his other claims.

The biggest lies are perpetuated by carefully sewing little grains of truth. For a person who wants to believe something, the little truth is enough to legitimize the grand lie.

I believe the only way to free ourselves from manipulation be it little white lies from a friend we like, corporate fanboism/anti-fanboism, or grander scale manipulations like 9/11 conspirasists or Astrology; is to subject everything you take in to the cold, harsh light of logic, to the best of our ability. Even then, our subconscious bias will nudge us into directions we wish to believe but the more vigilant and open minded we are the less chance we have to become a tool for someone else's agenda.

[ATAG_Dutch]

''I was abducted by aliens when I was 11. They anally probed me. I didn't like it. At first ''


In the UK, this is referred to as 'The National Health Service'.

[unreasonable]

Originally Posted by Dutch_851

''I was abducted by aliens when I was 11. They anally probed me. I didn't like it. At first ''


In the UK, this is referred to as 'The National Health Service'.

Or "public school".

[Herbs107]

According to a friend of mine the aliens have a base on the dark side of the moon, and also the moon is hollow because the little green critters are mining it. He also went on to tell me that when one of the Apollo capsules passed behind the moon(dont know which one) one of the astronauts said to NASA "There is a Santa Claus". This my friend told me meant that they could see the alien factories. He also told me there is a NASA recording of Neil Armstrong saying that they were been watched as they took a moon walk. On a side note this person isnt my friend anymore!!

[unreasonable]

So we are mostly agreed that the "little green men" advocates are wrong and either frauds or sincere but in the grip of a quasi-religious world view: but are they not harmless?

Given the extraordinary sorts of beliefs that flourish in the world (carefully not identifying the main culprits for fear of retribution - they get SO ANGRY when their precious beliefs are held up to ridicule, or even inspection), I would have thought that the UFOlogists are among the least harmful of cranks.

Perhaps they should be encouraged: after all they are highly unlikely to be converted to sceptical empiricism if dissuaded of their beliefs, more likely to plunge into something more irrational and dangerous that satisfies their probing cravings.

[SlipBall]

Today Wednesday we will hear of many UFO site ings

[louisv]

Originally Posted by Herbs107

...He also went on to tell me that when one of the Apollo capsules passed behind the moon(dont know which one) one of the astronauts said to NASA "There is a Santa Claus"....

That much is true...Apollo 8 went behind the moon on Christmas eve (first time humans behind a celestial body) and when they emerged, commander Frank Borman read a passage from the Bible and also said they had seen Santa Claus...Like they do on the news sometimes, you know when they say they've seen Santa Claus on the radar on Christmas day (in North America anyway) It was a nice moment...but nothing to do with UFOs

Louis