customer satisfaction poll

Blackdog

Would you like to be informed in a regular and effective way on patch progress

How can that be misleading, yes or no?? very simple really, the reason the question is being asked is because at present we are not being informed, so i fail to see how the poll is some kind trap for unsuspecting members.

Blackdog - another long post, I dont speak for anyone other than myself its just that as you can see 145 people currently share my view and only 14 share yours, that makes you part of a minority, I cant help that it is what it is. Also the poill does not ask for 'weekly' updates as you suggested it clearly ask for regular.

Lastly, regarding my predictions I see you have jumped on the same bandwagon as others suggesting I predicted eveything, that is wrong if you bothered to research this particular attack on me by reading my old posts you would see I concentrated my predictions in certain key areas, Im dissappointed that you have failed to gather some factual evidence, I had this discussion recently and challenged two people to look at my old posts, they failed to respond, perhaps your the guy to finally expose me?? Good luck.

[Robert]

Except according to the original poster the poll was to indicate who wanted to be informed in a regular and and effective way. I specifically said that I didn't want the poll to reflect that a YEAH vote from me would be misconstrued as a vote of dissatisfaction for how the updates were handled now.

I've laid out in two posts how I think (dependent upon real demonstrable progress) that the flow of information was fine with me. When the foundational processes are fixed I'd expect more free flow of info as to future updates and patches. The OP assured me that was his intention. Yes we all want information, but I want useful information put out in a pertinent manner.... not just for pixel's sake.

You've taken it to mean the very thing I wanted to guard against because that's not how I feel. Maybe there are 90 out of 100 that feel the way you do. There may only be 10% that do. As the poll is written it's impossible to discern which outcome was meant by the tally. According to the OP you've misinterpreted his poll.

Originally Posted by Robert

Except according to the original poster the poll was to indicate who wanted to be informed in a regular and and effective way. I specifically said that I didn't want the poll to reflect that a YEAH vote from me would be misconstrued as a vote of dissatisfaction for how the updates were handled now.

I've laid out in two posts how I think (dependent upon real demonstrable progress) that the flow of information was fine with me. When the foundational processes are fixed I'd expect more free flow of info as to future updates and patches. The OP assured me that was his intention. Yes we all want information, but I want useful information put out in a pertinent manner.... not just for pixel's sake.

You've taken it to mean the very thing I wanted to guard against because that's not how I feel. Maybe there are 90 out of 100 that feel the way you do. There may only be 10% that do. As the poll is written it's impossible to discern which outcome was meant by the tally. According to the OP you've misinterpreted his poll.

Robert, the petition thread was more represenative of forum members and in under 1 hour 80 people had signed it, then it was removed. it doesn't matter how you guys dress it up the simple fact is the members are not satisfied with the poor communication from the Dev's. End off.

[Chivas]

Unfortunately many people will take "Regular updates" in the Poll as "weekly updates" and use the poll results to defend their position. I can only surmise this by the amount of people who go off their nut if a weekly update doesn't show up. My contention is and always has been that weekly updates are untenable, and unrealistic, as even the developers are finding out after their stated hopes of providing the same. Yes its possible that some updates could be a week apart, but don't lose your nut if there are gaps of a few weeks.

[Robert]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Robert, the petition thread was more represenative of forum members and in under 1 hour 80 people had signed it, then it was removed. it doesn't matter how you guys dress it up the simple fact is the members are not satisfied with the poor communication from the Dev's. End off.

Well, I guess we'll all have to remain frustrated then. I don't see the amount on information drastically changing until closer to beta release.

Have a pint?

[scotchegg]

Originally Posted by Tree_UK

Robert, the petition thread was more represenative of forum members and in under 1 hour 80 people had signed it, then it was removed. it doesn't matter how you guys dress it up the simple fact is the members are not satisfied with the poor communication from the Dev's. End off.

No simpleton, some members are not happy.

Many members are patient enough to realise that developers are often put under pressure by publishers to release something incomplete to keep the project funded.

Many members remember how long it took the first game to mold into a gem, and can see the potential and progress already made with this sim.

Many members are also sick of the constant, public requests for contact from the devs and claims of "other devs keep in contact" when that is total rubbish. ROF doesn't have the contact, FSX never had the contact, even when ACES was still running.

Now do please either PM the devs with your requests, or be quiet.

[furbs]

Scotchegg, did you see the petition on communication before it was removed?

Your in the minority.

Originally Posted by scotchegg

No simpleton, some members are not happy.

Many members are patient enough to realise that developers are often put under pressure by publishers to release something incomplete to keep the project funded.

Many members remember how long it took the first game to mold into a gem, and can see the potential and progress already made with this sim.

Many members are also sick of the constant, public requests for contact from the devs and claims of "other devs keep in contact" when that is total rubbish. ROF doesn't have the contact, FSX never had the contact, even when ACES was still running.

Now do please either PM the devs with your requests, or be quiet.

sorry i didn't read your post past this bit; No simpleton

If you want to insult me trying being smarter or at least show some wit.

[MadTommy]

I don't care about update posts, i only care about patches, fixes & change logs.

A general post saying we are working on this & that is meaningless. When developers give timetables they only slide, just the nature of the game, and this only provokes complaints.

So i voted no.. Luthier has said if he is on the forums answering questions and posting updates then he is not working on fixes. So lets assume he is working hard, and by the snippets has has posted he has only reaffirmed that.

I see no purpose for regular updates to appease the rabble on these forums, as they clearly don't appease the said rabble.

[furbs]

Tommy, did you mean this....

Rabble = "complaints from paying customers , that i just dont happen to agree with, but are of course allowed to express their views as long as they comply with forum rules"