IL2 and Sound Modding

[Targ]

Originally Posted by JG52Uther

Well we will agree to disagree BC.I posted that as it is relevant to all the 'illegal hacking' arguments that a lot of people are going on about.Nothing to do with cheating.
If cracking the code is 'illegal',then so is using an unofficial no dvd hack.
As Stalkervision said above,some hacks seem more acceptable than others.
If Evgeny wants to lock the thread then he should do so. Some of the things talked about here are obviously uncomfortable to some people.
You will see that non of my posts are abusive,as some others posting here have been, but sometimes some of the misconceptions posted here should be answered.
Is it better to adopt the 'head in the sand' approach that now prevails at the ubi forum and pretend its not happening.

How wrong you are,
the position at UBI is the same as it is at SimHQ due to the fact that the members at both forums seem to be incapable of discussing this subject in an adult manner. This very thread is proof of that.
How sad that you blame UBI for other peoples actions , Had people acted responsibly than discussing the hack would still be on the table at UBI.

[fly_zo]

Originally Posted by Targ

How wrong you are,
the position at UBI is the same as it is at SimHQ due to the fact that the members at both forums seem to be incapable of discussing this subject in an adult manner. This very thread is proof of that.
How sad that you blame UBI for other peoples actions , Had people acted responsibly than discussing the hack would still be on the table at UBI.

... yea right.... like thread in mission building ... "my dream about ..." it has been deleted ( not locked ... deleted) and there was no flaming not even arguing ... nothing.

So please don't try to justify moderators witch-hunt on mod mentions down at Ubi -Zoo ....'cos nobody is buying it

And if you Ubi moderators want to do your job properly you would delete /edit just insulting posts and not whole threads.... but that would took too much of your time which you spending ...here .

[Bearcat]

Zo with all respect... you don't know who sees what at UBI and making blanket statements like that don't help..... and Uther... head in the sand approach? LMAO... Boy.. that sounds so familiar to me... the guy who got creamed for trying to NOT do the head in the sand thing....

Look guys.... this isnt UBI.. so if you guys habve beefs with what we do over @ UBI then either PM us over there or open a thread.... over there.. I won't lock it or remove it.. unless of course you start making blanket statements or start to insult all the mods.... but this is not UBI.. and it isn't right to keep this going over here.

[JG52Uther]

Bearcat I actually respect you more than any of the other moderators at the ubi forum,as you are the only one who has publicly posted and tried to heal the rift in the il2 community.Look what happened with that.
You are a member of that 'other' forum,and seem to like some of the stuff being done there.
Another ubi moderator is a member of that forum and actually a financial supporter.Good for him.
Other people are probably members under different names.We all have one thing in common here,and thats a love of the best combat flight sim ever made.
There is a blanket ban on even whispering about the mod/hack at ubi,so there can be no discussion in any way.Even the vaguest hint gets a ban (ask Fabianfred).
I don't have a 'beef' with what you do over at the ubi forum. As the moderators there you can do what you like.Theres no point in starting a thread about it there as,even if BC doesn't delete/lock it,then one of the other mods will.
As you said,this is not the ubi forum,and discussion should be allowed until Evgeny decides otherwise.Thats what a forum is for.

[fly_zo]

fabianfred got banned from Zoo for this "great insult":

"it WILL have the new Slovakia map....plus about 300 new objects (from that map)

maybe one a/c

...but the slovakia map will be the best we've ever had...and probably the best we will ever get......officially that is"

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/4101061716


so bearcat i know what i'm saying here....

[SlipBall]

Wow, does seem like a over reaction of the mod that banned him

[Lo0n]

just a touch. anyone could've made that comment, mod user or not. if people get banned for such a minor mention then surely it would be fair if anyone mentioning it, positive or negative, gets the same treatment...

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by fly_zo

fabianfred got banned from Zoo for this "great insult":

"it WILL have the new Slovakia map....plus about 300 new objects (from that map)
maybe one a/c
...but the slovakia map will be the best we've ever had...and probably the best we will ever get......officially that is"
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...3/m/4101061716


so bearcat i know what i'm saying here....

Yes I saw that .... and I know of what you speak.. however it is this

So please don't try to justify moderators witch-hunt on mod mentions down at Ubi -Zoo ....'cos nobody is buying it

And if you Ubi moderators want to do your job properly you would delete /edit just insulting posts and not whole threads.... but that would took too much of your time which you spending ...here .

That I took issue with... statements like that should always be qualified with a "Some" or "a few" but not a blanket... thats all I am saying. While I have my opinions about the particular case in question.... in truth some of the people in this thread brough such draconian measures upon themselves because they just couldn't even talk without hurling insults back and forth or they had to just keep the same bullheaded dialog going thereby removing any chance of any real dialog..

[JG52Uther]

Well maybe all the ubi moderators could 'get on the same page' so to speak,as at stands now nobody quite knows what is allowed there and what will result in a ban.One moderator will allow something,the next one who comes along will dish out a ban /thread deletion /thread lock.Surely you must have some sort of moderators forum there where you discuss what you will and will not allow.