crash at duxford today [2011]

[swiss]

Originally Posted by ckolonko

It's a matter of provenance. Simple as that.

Related to the P51 or your Ferrari?
Obiviously the reg of the P51 is worth more than the plane itself - with oldtimers it's a different story, no one cares if the car has a title or not(they are sold around the globe, new owner, new country, new title: Problem solved) - the hardware is the important part.

OT Ferrari example:
If the parts used, were from the original car it wouldn't be a problem.
Each car part is numbered(doors, bonnet etc), those numbers must match the rest of the car, spare parts have different numbers. Even if you manage to find original Ferrari parts, they still are not original parts(of that car).
Apply a new coat of paint - loss in worth
New interior - loss
Heck, each screw you change on an oltimer results in a loss.

That is, unless it's a complete wreck, but then again, no one will pay you big bucks for a "Raggedy-Ann" car. It's usually not even worth to start the rebuild, as you can only get back your investment for the rebuild itself.

[_RAAF_Mini]

The voice at the end of the clip on Flying Film link at normal speed i think is the pilot of Ferocious Frankie who circled Robs landing site for a few minutes after he went down - incase anybody wondered ;P

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

the P-51 control and trim cables run alongside the fuselage on double sets, the point of impact was where they do run, which probably severed them.

Considering the pilot's age (64), he acted incredibly fast and managed to get out of it almost unscathed. Hats off to Rob Davies!

Why is a 64 year old allowed to fly a warbird? That would be like allowing him to drive a F1 car...

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by cheesehawk

Who would have more experience in the type? A 64 year old, or some 20 year old simmer? Also, ownership probably has a big say in who flies the aircraft.

Experience won't get you anywhere, lower reaction times and physical limitations are well known facts of age and should lead to a flight ban. Simple as that.

He should use his experience to train new pilots and not hang on it for vanity's sake. Plus, he wrote off several million dollars there... not very smart.

[Fjordmonkey]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Experience won't get you anywhere, lower reaction times and physical limitations are well known facts of age and should lead to a flight ban. Simple as that.

He should use his experience to train new pilots and not hang on it for vanity's sake. Plus, he wrote off several million dollars there... not very smart.

Experience will get you everywhere, lower reaction-time and physical limitations are a non-issue as long as he passes the medical. If he didn't pass his medical last time he took it, he wouldn't be flying. Period.

He used his experience to show people the wonder that is a warbird. This was an accident, and at least to me, it looks like the Mustang-pilot wasn't to blame. I'll await the final accident-report before I start speculating on what really happened. In other words: poo happens.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by Zorin

Experience won't get you anywhere, lower reaction times and physical limitations are well known facts of age and should lead to a flight ban. Simple as that.

He should use his experience to train new pilots and not hang on it for vanity's sake. Plus, he wrote off several million dollars there... not very smart.

well first of all he OWNED the plane and was deemed as physically fit to fly it; second thing he logged HUNDREDS of hours on it; third, he got out of there like a gazelle on redbull when he got hit, which was the wiser thing to do, it's not worth dying for something that is insured and can be rebuilt.. I would think twice before making such stupid statements fellas..

[ckolonko]

Originally Posted by Sternjaeger II

watch your swearing buddy, we got particularly zealous mods around here

Sorry bout that. I just cant get the Image of jesus riding a bike out of my head.
Still very sad to see such a beautiful 'plane getting wrecked. No matter how common they are.

[Sternjaeger II]

Originally Posted by ckolonko

Sorry bout that. I just cant get the Image of jesus riding a bike out of my head.
Still very sad to see such a beautiful 'plane getting wrecked. No matter how common they are.

hehehe I know, and a bloody one too

Yep, shame indeed, it was a fine machine.

[Mysticpuma]

Originally Posted by Buzpilot

http://player.vimeo.com/video/26291756?

Looking at the slow speed part, the P-51 looks undammaged, Skyraider lost part of wing, but managed to land.
Did P-51 pilot panic, or was elevators uncontrollable?

Wow impressive video and I am sure of great use to ACI.....good-job someone decided to keep videoing!

Thanks for the link, cheers, MP

[kristorf]

Found this picture


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A mate who restores warbirds thinks the control cables were severed