Reviewing Luthier's roadmap

Dude i hear the black beauty main theme when i read your posts listing excuses for why this game insnt right, you obviously are on a crusade to shut down any thread that you think may be negative or maybe have uniformed information contained within it. Why not just leave people to their opinion instead of pulling apart what they have said? Oh... are you our Community Guy in disguise? Incognito Car Guy shhhh

[bongodriver]

I'm confused.......all the time now I hear DCS is better, ROF is better, I have shelved COD and just don't care for it any more, I'm not playing anymore wah! wah! wah!........so why are these folks here?.......constantly, shouldn't they be filling their time playing DCS and ROF because they are just so brilliant? instead of coming to this forum and making comments about a game they just 'don't care for'.....constantly.

Because they can, "they" have always been here, and they love the game really, i feel its frustration. I agree with both sides of the fence in all honesty all joking aside, Sorry car guy just messing around.

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by BigPickle

Because they can, "they" have always been here, and they love the game really, i feel its frustration. I agree with both sides of the fence in all honesty all joking aside, Sorry car guy just messing around.

I'm going to refer you to my last post in this thread.

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthr...=24431&page=10

Think before posting please, your manner starts threads off in the wrong direction with your "not thinking" before posting attitude.

You are not the only one guilty of this but you seem not to have learned much during your time here.

Same old stuff..........
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Have the moderators gone all school teacher on us here? Or is it just Alpha who's taking his job a little too seriously?

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by Crane

Have the moderators gone all school teacher on us here? Or is it just Alpha who's taking his job a little too seriously?

Go read the rules then come back here and post something of use.

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Go read the rules then come back here and post something of use.

Doffs cap to the mighty moderator!

[philip.ed]

Alpha, I think it's pretty obvious that a large portion of members don't think before posting, given the bans which are being handed around for either swearing or quoting posts with swear-words in them. It's one way of showing how not to run a forum (especially given that I could search your past posts for swear-words with results; so yes, you are a hypocrite).

@Bongo; the reason why they are still posting is because they want the game to succeed; isn't it obvious? If everyone was a devoted 'fan-boi' there would be no constructuve criticism, so the devs would be lulled into a situation where they thought that everyone was happy with the sim. Most poeple aren't happy with the sim; they're just content with the possiblity that the sim could become something great (if pushed in the right direction).
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Luthier himself has advocated constructive criticism. The only times that criticsm breaks down and becomes de-constructive is when there is a major silence from the devs, indicating that they are either unaware of the community, or immune to it. I doubt both of these examples are true, but people won't stop being 'negative' until there is official word on all areas of the sim under the spotlight.

[bongodriver]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

Alpha, I think it's pretty obvious that a large portion of members don't think before posting, given the bans which are being handed around for either swearing or quoting posts with swear-words in them. It's one way of showing how not to run a forum (especially given that I could search your past posts for swear-words with results; so yes, you are a hypocrite).

@Bongo; the reason why they are still posting is because they want the game to succeed; isn't it obvious? If everyone was a devoted 'fan-boi' there would be no constructuve criticism, so the devs would be lulled into a situation where they thought that everyone was happy with the sim. Most poeple aren't happy with the sim; they're just content with the possiblity that the sim could become something great (if pushed in the right direction).
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Luthier himself has advocated constructive criticism. The only times that criticsm breaks down and becomes de-constructive is when there is a major silence from the devs, indicating that they are either unaware of the community, or immune to it. I doubt both of these examples are true, but people won't stop being 'negative' until there is official word on all areas of the sim under the spotlight.

Phil,

I understand the concept of criticism and how fanboi'ism will not help, but the criticism is becoming a stuck record, and I don't think a constant barrage of DCS is better or ROF is better will help the sim suceed, rather it will make people go and buy DCS and ROF and forget COD......no? but how about this for a concept, every aspect of the games bugginess has now been discussed to death, and there have been sadly only a couple of threads that really go into highlighting the bugs, the rest is just mud slinging, this is why I see no logic to the current form of criticism....it just wont help the sim suceed at all.

[whatnot]

Originally Posted by philip.ed

@Bongo; the reason why they are still posting is because they want the game to succeed; isn't it obvious? If everyone was a devoted 'fan-boi' there would be no constructuve criticism, so the devs would be lulled into a situation where they thought that everyone was happy with the sim. Most poeple aren't happy with the sim; they're just content with the possiblity that the sim could become something great (if pushed in the right direction).
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Luthier himself has advocated constructive criticism. The only times that criticsm breaks down and becomes de-constructive is when there is a major silence from the devs, indicating that they are either unaware of the community, or immune to it. I doubt both of these examples are true, but people won't stop being 'negative' until there is official word on all areas of the sim under the spotlight.

What exactly in postings like:

I started posting in this thread, then I realised I have not played Clod since the last patch and to be honest I no longer care if it is fixed. The game is shelved next to my copy of Silent Hunter 5.
Team Dalious are doing wonders with Il2 and honestly outshining the crowd here.

Helps the game succeed or is constructive? I agree that it's important to share the concerns, bugs and dissapointments in an attempt to influence and inform the dev team. Maybe you should post them even a few times to make sure they're acknowledged by atleast someone.

But lurking around the forums repeating the same mantra over and over again, or as in this case: just hanging around to be able to post that you don't play the game anymore is just sad. What the hell can one achieve with that except to look for revenge of some sort to dry the tears.

But there is no denying that the biggest fail has been communication. Maybe it's a known decision as the percentage in these forums are just a drop in the ocean compared to the masses not worth the effort, maybe it's just inability to do a decent customer service which is not unheard of with dev teams. Whatever it is, it's a fail.