IL2 and Sound Modding

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by RAF_Leigh

i want that tripple head to go thingy to have 3 screens but that may make me feel like im am cheating

say you make a three screen display and a complete cockpit with rudder pedals and the whole works. That isn't giving you an unfair advantage? How about an 8000 to 10000 dollar super computer rig too....

This doesn't seem to bother the no-mod people whatsoever...

[WTE_Goanna]

Ask yourself this when considering the "level playing field" debate;
1. To use TrackIR, does the code have to be broken first - No
2. To use Hotas/pedals, does the code have to be broken first - No
3. To use a larger monitor, does the code have to be broken first - No
4. To use multiple monitors, does the code have to be broken first - No
5. To use "mods" does the code have to be broken first - YES
6. Can anyone use the numbers 1 through 4 without the code being changed - YES
7. Can anyone use number 5 without the code being changed - NO

and that gents/ladies is the crux of the matter, whether or not the code is compromised/changed to gain an advantage.

Whether a person can/cannot afford a bigger this or that is not relevant in this debate, the point being that the game "supports" them natively, whereas the game does not support "Mods" natively.

That's my 2 bobs worth

Cheers

Goanna

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by WTE_Goanna

Ask yourself this when considering the "level playing field" debate;
1. To use TrackIR, does the code have to be broken first - No
2. To use Hotas/pedals, does the code have to be broken first - No
3. To use a larger monitor, does the code have to be broken first - No
4. To use multiple monitors, does the code have to be broken first - No
5. To use "mods" does the code have to be broken first - YES
6. Can anyone use the numbers 1 through 4 without the code being changed - YES
7. Can anyone use number 5 without the code being changed - NO

and that gents/ladies is the crux of the matter, whether or not the code is compromised/changed to gain an advantage.

Whether a person can/cannot afford a bigger this or that is not relevant in this debate, the point being that the game "supports" them natively, whereas the game does not support "Mods" natively.

That's my 2 bobs worth

Cheers

Goanna

you seem to be way more worried about the code then a level playing field whatsoever at all..


How about this we hand you a sub-par system and see what you worry about first, mods or trying to use a sub-par system agains't people who can afford to use the very best...

Your the one who is obviously more then a little native here....

cheers to you Mr. Oblivious.. "not relevant in this debate" get real....

[stalkervision]

Give me one person who would give up his high end computer and monitor and Track Ir over having no mods in the game.

I can tell you right now if someone says they would they are a bald faced liar..

[BSS_Sniper]

Originally Posted by stalkervision

Without icons it is extreamly difficult to see aircraft at a distance in the game normally. Much worse then real life. Look at it this way. Is it also fair for some players to have higher resolution and bigger computer monitors to see planes a whole lot better in the distance or faster internet connections and much faster computers and video cards that make their planes perform a whole lot better and further then someone that can't afford these things?

Just my opinion. When I use to play Battlefied 1942 on a slower computer and with a slower internet connection I got my butt whipped regularly by people who could afford as good equiptment as computer companies made. Nothing fair about that either...

I don't know where you got the idea that it is easier to see aircraft in real life. That is the biggest crock of S*** I've ever heard! lol Stalker, I am not trying to be disrespectful, so please do not take it that way. I am a real life pilot and flying aircraft is how I make my living. Some others in my squad are professional pilots as well. One of the BIGGEST things we comment on is how unrealistically easy it is to spot aircraft in IL2. We probably comment on that nightly. If you want an idea of something that is closer to real life, take a look at lockon. It is darn near ridiculous, the ease of spotting aircraft in this sim. I've talked about this to other RL pilots here and we all say the same thing; I will get a call from ATC giving me distance and direction of other aircraft and we still can't see them until they are close and I have 20/15 vision. Sometimes you may see the glint of the sun on an aircraft at a distance on a very clear day, but that is rare. One thing that is missing here is haze.

Also, if you didn't know, the higher your resolution, the harder it is to see aircraft IIRC.

[Billfish]

Well, it has become abundantly clear the end goal regarding these hacks for some is to "level their playing field".....Though in truth gain a bit of an edge. Justifying something giving one an advantage because "bob has more money then I, therefor possibly better equipment, therefor I can do "X" as it brings me to par" is a poor reason/excuse.

Best part is it clearly states that anything to no matter what degree is not off limits. As today it's just to get to a "believed par", tomorrow because you had a bad night so tweak it up a bit more to be at your believed par....and in time you're naturally just the ace of aces due to your superior skills, as naturally everyone else is doing the same.

Sorry....Fact of the matter is I'm probably at the low end as far as equipment.....and to be blunt, I hold my own and then some against those with 2 of everything and all top end.

However Stalkervision, you do state the case for NOT allowing mods quite well whether you realized it or not.

K2

[ElAurens]

By his own words he shall be pwnd.

I wonder what his next bit of "reasoning" will be?

Funny stuff.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by RAF_Leigh

i want that tripple head to go thingy to have 3 screens but that may make me feel like im am cheating

Youd be better off with a 24" WS or better & TIR.. My 2 cents on that..

The rest... I beat that puppy enough. Y'all do what you want to....

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by BSS_Sniper

I don't know where you got the idea that it is easier to see aircraft in real life. That is the biggest crock of S*** I've ever heard! lol Stalker, I am not trying to be disrespectful, so please do not take it that way. I am a real life pilot and flying aircraft is how I make my living. Some others in my squad are professional pilots as well. One of the BIGGEST things we comment on is how unrealistically easy it is to spot aircraft in IL2. We probably comment on that nightly. If you want an idea of something that is closer to real life, take a look at lockon. It is darn near ridiculous, the ease of spotting aircraft in this sim. I've talked about this to other RL pilots here and we all say the same thing; I will get a call from ATC giving me distance and direction of other aircraft and we still can't see them until they are close and I have 20/15 vision. Sometimes you may see the glint of the sun on an aircraft at a distance on a very clear day, but that is rare. One thing that is missing here is haze.

Also, if you didn't know, the higher your resolution, the harder it is to see aircraft IIRC.

You don't get specular reflections in Il-2 like in real life when the glit of the sun reflects off a polished aircraft surface. Actually these reflections were quite common apparently and not rare whatsoever as you say because they are frequently commented on by ww 2 combat pilots. Apparently you have seen this effect very little huh and your a professional pilot with 20/15 vision what??? Private planes aren't camoflaged don't you know also. Many ace pilots were well known for picking out aircraft at increadable distances before their comrades could see the same aircraft. This is a decided advantage in any non-radar air combat. You don't get good movement clues either in il-2 as one would get in real life either.

[stalkervision]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

By his own words he shall be pwnd.

I wonder what his next bit of "reasoning" will be?

Funny stuff.

Were you always this stupid or did you have to take a whole lot of lessons to become that dumb. I have to say one thing for you. You really got your moneys worth...