Fulqrum Publishing Home   |   Register   |   Today Posts   |   Members   |   UserCP   |   Calendar   |   Search   |   FAQ

Go Back   Official Fulqrum Publishing forum > Fulqrum Publishing > IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey

IL-2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey Famous title comes to consoles.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-30-2011, 02:52 PM
KAV KAV is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 469
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MACADEMIC View Post
Yes guys, if you watch this movie you won't be disappointed. It's an amazing true story brought to life. I think I'll watch it again.

McQ, KAV, have you seen it? I'm sure it's a famous story in Norway.

MAC
Yes I have seen it.
Dunno how to continue this post without sounding like an a__hole......


My problem is, working in both theater and film myself, there are some real poor workmanship in this. And as of being a WWII enthusiast, the poor workmanship in addition to telling great heros story in a crappy way I almost puked while I saw it the first (and only) time.

My personal view is: CRAP

I am glad the rest of you guys liked it ..........
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-30-2011, 03:01 PM
dkwookie dkwookie is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Yavin IV
Posts: 978
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KAV View Post
Yes I have seen it.
Dunno how to continue this post without sounding like an a__hole......


My problem is, working in both theater and film myself, there are some real poor workmanship in this. And as of being a WWII enthusiast, the poor workmanship in addition to telling great heros story in a crappy way I almost puked while I saw it the first (and only) time.

My personal view is: CRAP

I am glad the rest of you guys liked it ..........
Don't beat about the bush Kav, tell us what you really think!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-30-2011, 03:18 PM
Gilly Gilly is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: 30,000ft+
Posts: 996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KAV View Post
Yes I have seen it.
Dunno how to continue this post without sounding like an a__hole......


My problem is, working in both theater and film myself, there are some real poor workmanship in this. And as of being a WWII enthusiast, the poor workmanship in addition to telling great heros story in a crappy way I almost puked while I saw it the first (and only) time.

My personal view is: CRAP

I am glad the rest of you guys liked it ..........
No say what you mean Kav!!! Least your honest mate. I'd expect you look at this very critically as it is but this is a proper 'Mark Kermode on transformers' review!(YouTube it!!)
You talk as if you've written and directed films.....oh hang on....hehe!!!
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-30-2011, 03:35 PM
McQ59 McQ59 is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ZoooooM!
Posts: 691
Default

You're in deep, deep sh*t KAV!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-30-2011, 03:46 PM
Gilly Gilly is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: 30,000ft+
Posts: 996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by McQ59 View Post
You're in deep, deep sh*t KAV!
Join the queue mate, I've got first dabs at giving him
a damn good thrashing at Duxford for his 'I'm on holiday' text he sent me last week!!!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-30-2011, 03:57 PM
KAV KAV is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Norway
Posts: 469
Default

I will give this CRAP a real "Mark Kermode on transformers"

But before I start, who of you who havent seen it, tell me what its all about from the Trailer !

(They F_ckn did even get a TEASER right)

EDIT:
Someone beat me to it:
Max Manus **
BY JOSEPH JON LANTHIER

The Euro-cultural tradition of canonizing Nazi resisters has met few candidates as challenging as Max Manus, a Norwegian saboteur and key member of the ragtag-guerilla Oslo Gang. Aside from a handful of small, Gestapo-weakening successes (notably, Manus managed to sneakily sink a cluster of German supply ships), this insurgent's most illustrious claim to fame was the ability to evade death and capture, even as he witnessed these fates befalling the remainder of his comrades in the most grisly of manifestations. Manus is rightfully a national emblem; his exploits can be taken as a mythic metaphor for Norway's plucky political-economic resilience and Viking heritage, and his memoirs provide a wily, unwholesome template for schoolboy daydreams of municipally mandated mayhem. But the cocky, inchoate underground he belonged to was bungling, self-destructive, and largely ineffectual; any recounting of his story, in other words, must reckon with an unbalanced amount of failure.
It's somewhat appropriate, then, that the Norwegian-made biographical film Max Manus has bookends of last-man-standing angst to differentiate itself from countless other similarly themed historical action flicks (the muddily paced Flame & Citron and meticulously detailed Black Book among them): The loss of fellow soldiers and ideological brethren is the unavoidable yang to Manus's razor-edged escape artistry yin. As the movie picks up the rebel's life during the Oslo Gang's propaganda-generating incipience in 1940, Manus (Aksel Hennie) is already bedeviled by visions of crimson-stained snowbanks from his gun combat experience in Finland the previous year. We view these memories as enormously influential skirmishes not between Manus and Nazis, but between a proud, nationalist kid and a premature awareness of his own mortality (it's his Yossarian/Snowden moment, conveniently bundled in jagged, icily inhuman imagery that recalls Inception's second-to-inner-most dream dimension. But the following series of putatively high-octane set pieces flit glossily and shallowly from one botched terrorist effort to the next; by the time Manus bemoans his lack of confidants (and real life skills) in the third act, we're wondering where he found the time to metamorphose from a slippery kid with a gun to a self-absorbed twentysomething with midlife social woes.
Considering the actual history embedded in the film, an early adulthood as eventful and storied as Manus's would presumably be best interpreted with a leisurely episodic narrative that provides room for tangents of self-doubt and painstakingly real-time facsimiles of saboteur tension. Instead, however, directors Joachim Rønning and Espen Sandberg render a "Max Manus's Greatest Hits" (or misses, as the case might be) with incessantly dysfunctional rhythms. Aside from an engaging sequence where Manus must leap from an apartment window and land his fractured self in the hospital to cleverly avoid SS interrogation, the movie resolutely keeps us at arm's length—the innocent-bystander camera angles, unfussy editing, and digital patina are more redolent of Hollywood's contemporary B drama than a nervously period character study.
The WWII milieu isn't established with enough detail to be called revisionist per se, though Rønning and Sandberg offer a perspective of German occupation so unhindered by the dread of imminent danger that we occasionally mistake it for fresh. (The re-visitation of "refined" Nazi decadence tropes, wherein the torturing of POW's is compared to a symphony in so many movements, more comfortingly suggests that they're not above cracker-thin iron-cross villainy.) Even the staging of Manus's most unequivocally worthy moment is handicapped with flat-footed cadence that stumbles over the communication of fear; the near-discovery of his wooden, explosive-bearing dingy by searchlights momentarily froths with anxiety, and then we see the bombs being anticlimactically affixed. And very quickly, the hurried succession of impersonally examined wartime missions establishes an eerie and potentially immoral monotony: Neither the futility of the Oslo Gang's often fatal efforts nor Manus's irrepressible, Houdini-like survivalism manage to arouse our sympathies.
One could argue that the astounding dearth of feeling in Max Manus is an ontological inquiry upon the saboteur's life, as well as a subtle persuasion for Manus's iffy heroism; his occasionally traumatizing luck must have at some level engendered a defensively withdrawn solipsism that discouraged intimacy not only with other people but with the nerve-rattling true grit of his own remembrance. But while this logic forgives the film's airy, impartial pacing, the lack of a forceful foil to Manus's aloof, cluttered headspace is deeply felt; more closely following the under-fire development of his personal relationships might have spackled the copious emotional gaps between cut-and-dry reenactments. As it is, Manus barely mourns the torturing of his number two agent, Gregers Gram (Nicolai Cleve Broch); his drunken, half-hearted courtship of brunette resistance liason Tikken (Agnes Kittelsen) is handled passionlessly; and an unlikely confrontation between Manus and his arch-nemesis, the Gestapo commander Siegfried Fehmer (Ken Duken), is so weightless that it reveals how clumsily their rivalry has been portrayed.
Through most of these trials, Hennie admirably plays Manus like an undereducated ruffian who'd rather close his eyes and drift away, but who greets oncoming, unfavorable odds with a wicked determinism anyhow. We eventually empathize with the actor because viewing the film requires the same attitude. Finally, the noticeable lack of punch in Max Manus falls short of the propulsive portraiture this difficult figure demands; the movie itself requires so much effort we have none left for later researching what facts might have been fudged or omitted.


Gilly:
Please dont remind that I only got 6 weeks left of my summer vacation...........

Last edited by KAV; 06-30-2011 at 04:43 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-01-2011, 02:06 AM
MACADEMIC MACADEMIC is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 808
Default

Dammit, wish i'd made a poll when I started this thread. Didn't think we'd end up in controversy, lol.

Choices:

1. Yes, I absolutely loved this movie and would watch it again.

2. Total CRAP, I've almost puked trying to watch it.



MAC
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-01-2011, 08:04 AM
Gilly Gilly is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: 30,000ft+
Posts: 996
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KAV View Post
Gilly: Please dont remind that I only got 6 weeks left of my summer vacation...........
No mate, you have a week left of your summer holiday then 5 weeks of intensive care!!


Thanks for the review mate, maybe McQ could bring his copy next week!!!
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-01-2011, 09:33 AM
McQ59 McQ59 is offline
Approved Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: ZoooooM!
Posts: 691
Default

@MAC; I'm sure there must be something in between there mate. Something like 'It can have it's moments seen along with a jazz-sig and a cpl of cold beers a dull&dark winternight.'

@Gilly; No worries mate, I'll bring my copy. And I really look forward to hear your opinion and discuss it with the residents of Davedog Towers on location at Duxford.

@KAV; Nice review. Loved it. Made me want to see the movie one more time. It's really a pity we don't have what it takes to make decent movies up here... And to be honest bro, it's way better than "Varg Veum"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 03:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2007 Fulqrum Publishing. All rights reserved.