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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 06-07-2011, 01:20 PM
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I hate lens flares. My eyeball doesn't experience lens flares. Why do game developers insist on adding this ugly effect that doesn't match what my eyeball sees?
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:26 PM
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I hate lens flares. My eyeball doesn't experience lens flares. Why do game developers insist on adding this ugly effect that doesn't match what my eyeball sees?
Because TV is standard of reality
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Old 06-07-2011, 09:32 PM
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exactly! true words in a stupid reality
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:29 PM
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I hate lens flares. My eyeball doesn't experience lens flares. Why do game developers insist on adding this ugly effect that doesn't match what my eyeball sees?
I'd see an oculist if I were you

BF3 is surely going to be a milestone. If some of you guys can't see its outstanding features it's because you just like to be a contrary Mary..

Stunning graphics, animations, acting voices and plot, but yes, it's a game, not a sim. I doubt someone would survive all that heap of sounds and explosions for another day of fighting

There's one thing that always annoyed me about FPSs, the little gnome in your rucksack that automatically moves your ammunition to the half emptied magazines so that you can keep on picking up fully loaded ones..
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Old 06-07-2011, 01:42 PM
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The thing that initially impressed me (with my flight sim hat on) was the big pall of smoke rising in the distance.

I said wow that would be fantastic rising above a city as your flying your plane towards it (or away). The I realised it was static and didn't change.

As the tanks raced toward it I wanted it to get bigger and tower up higher. It didn't.

It didn't even have any internal movement as a real cloud of smoke would have. But I gess thats because they're only modeling a map 10's of kilometres wide rather than 100's of kilometres. All that detail restricts how big the maps are.

Not long ago people were complaing about the inclusion of grass in COD. It would be fantastic to have targets with as much detail as that compound, but would it be worth having it if your bombing from 20,000 feet or racing past at tree top level at 300Kph?


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Old 06-07-2011, 01:59 PM
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The thing that initially impressed me (with my flight sim hat on) was the big pall of smoke rising in the distance.

I said wow that would be fantastic rising above a city as your flying your plane towards it (or away). The I realised it was static and didn't change.

As the tanks raced toward it I wanted it to get bigger and tower up higher. It didn't.

It didn't even have any internal movement as a real cloud of smoke would have. But I gess thats because they're only modeling a map 10's of kilometres wide rather than 100's of kilometres. All that detail restricts how big the maps are.

Not long ago people were complaing about the inclusion of grass in COD. It would be fantastic to have targets with as much detail as that compound, but would it be worth having it if your bombing from 20,000 feet or racing past at tree top level at 300Kph?


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One of those things people comparing apples and oranges conveniently overlook and wonder why cant we have this.

"They" probably think CoD, BF etc never have to make compromises.

Those giant smokestacks is a perfect example.

As far as i can tell BF forums isnt flooded with people thinking they always know how to do BF better.

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Old 06-07-2011, 02:01 PM
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The thing that initially impressed me (with my flight sim hat on) was the big pall of smoke rising in the distance.

I said wow that would be fantastic rising above a city as your flying your plane towards it (or away). The I realised it was static and didn't change.
That's an excellent example of "picking your battles". FPS's can do this much easier than Flight Sims since you are usually stuck on the ground in a certain area. Flight sims don't have that luxury of being able to hide things in the distance. One thing that I was sort of disappointed with CloD was their lack of "corner cutting" graphics where appropriate instead of cutting features.

Those high density forests we see could have been replaced by "Oleg Trees Version 2.0" and nobody would have noticed and I'm sure it would have helped free up some resources for other stuff.
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:25 PM
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Once again its the "effects" crowd ohhhing and aaaahhhing and wanting Il2 to look the same.

Carefully look at these shots to see the badly rendered parts and the fake back drops.
No water renders no cloud renders active weather etc etc, I really dont see whats to ask of 1c Team here by saying 2011 renders blah blah blah,
look at the solidiers arm it looks worse than a CoD pilots one.

The one thing they have done well is the smoke
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:43 PM
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Looks like it would be a fun thrill for a one-time run through of the game, for the artwork and lighting effects alone. Chances are the gameplay will be fun, hopefully for the whole game unless the "FPS corridor effect" shows through halfway in.

I don't mind console-like games if the storyline and interface is good enough but they almost always tend to leave an empty feeling, as if you really only had 2 or 3 options of what to do in a particular scenario while the rest is just smoke and mirrors but that can be pretty enjoyable in itself if done right.

Replay value tends to be practically nil but I don't usually watch movies more than once anyway, and essentially this is what you will be doing in BF3 I suspect.
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Old 06-07-2011, 03:15 PM
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I play Battlefield play4free its mid of bf2 and bf3 and the grafix are boring so like alot of "trailers" the grafixs look great ..gameplay is toned down

You guys have to remember : When a game is made you have to think Download size and how big is your map..in your map how is every detail.. Did you notice in BF3 your only moving forward and small turns like a maze ..in a sim you have freedom of a big map and 360* movement ..I use to play Medal of honor games ..which were fun but again maze like maps your not going to see tanks in retreat and rearming or doing a pinser movement

With Sim games you have vast open space with time to scout around find your prey and kill it or be killed However theres not many Variables like flying in a formation with other players (bomber/fighters) looking for other player formations of fighters/bombers or side tracked to a tanks

...Shorten the map by 1/4 and add more in it
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