To little insight!!!

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by olife

oooooooffff!!!what a crazy fire power!!and tell me if i m wrong but a 40 mm vickers guns were put in the hurricane IV wings?...imagine how the wing must be solid!!!

Your right, the Hurricane's in North Africa (Mk IID's) were armed with 40MM guns, and ontop of that caused MASS amounts of damage to enemy units and vehicles. They were absolutely deadly. Though the wing was ever so slighty modified to be able to carry the vickers s gun.

The Hurricane could do it though, with such a thick wing in comparison to other fighters such as the Spitfire/Mustang, so it made for a vert sturdy gun platform.

You name it the Hurricane could do it. It may not of been the best fighter aircraft by the end of the war, but it was without a doubt the most versatile aircraft of the war having been used in every role without much ugrading etc.

A true work horse.


On topic.... did you see the manaquin get destroyed in that clip? Nasty!! And the recoil it had when in fully automatic mode. Ouch!!

[FOZ_1983]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_PQSajWEiM

Sorry for lack of sound.

The mighty Hurricane tank buster. AKA - Flying can opener!!

[olife]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

Your right, the Hurricane's in North Africa (Mk IID's) were armed with 40MM guns, and ontop of that caused MASS amounts of damage to enemy units and vehicles. They were absolutely deadly. Though the wing was ever so slighty modified to be able to carry the vickers s gun.

The Hurricane could do it though, with such a thick wing in comparison to other fighters such as the Spitfire/Mustang, so it made for a vert sturdy gun platform.

You name it the Hurricane could do it. It may not of been the best fighter aircraft by the end of the war, but it was without a doubt the most versatile aircraft of the war having been used in every role without much ugrading etc.

A true work horse.


On topic.... did you see the manaquin get destroyed in that clip? Nasty!! And the recoil it had when in fully automatic mode. Ouch!!

yes i'm agree with u.and your video is very intteresting,a lot of details about the vickers 40 mm,i read in a book that the nickname of the hurricane with 40 mm guns was "the can-opener"...we can understand why!!!
yes i see the manaquin...the recoil...and the noise too!!!terrible!!!
the free french air force used hurricane in the desert war in ww2 too.

[FOZ_1983]

Have you ever heard of the French pilot Pierre Le Gloan?

I hadnt until recently, and i must admit he's something of a strange one. He fought for the Allies, then the Vichy French, then the Allies again. By the time of his death he had accounted for a few kills,

Amongst them..

Germans while flying for the French

RAF planes while flying against us for the vichy French

Italian planes whileflying for the free french.

The guy got about a bit!!

[Gilly]

If we're talking big guns and aircraft my vote for WoS is already cast for one of these please.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M00f5...e_gdata_player

[FOZ_1983]

Thats a pretty big gun!! You have mybeloved Hurricanes on Anti Tank duty, then you come along with the Anti Ship weaponry!! haha.

Beautiful plane the Mossie, absolutely beautiful.

[olife]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

Have you ever heard of the French pilot Pierre Le Gloan?

I hadnt until recently, and i must admit he's something of a strange one. He fought for the Allies, then the Vichy French, then the Allies again. By the time of his death he had accounted for a few kills,

Amongst them..

Germans while flying for the French

RAF planes while flying against us for the vichy French

Italian planes whileflying for the free french.

The guy got about a bit!!

yes i know this french pilot,an ace if i remenber correctly what i read.
yes many french pilots were very divided after the deafeat between join the GENERAL CHARLES DE GAULLE in the free french forces and stay in the vichy air force to hope continue the war in north africa...but quickly it became clear that the vichy governement opted for a total collaboration with the nazis...some pilots join MISTER DE GAULLE and others want but an event did that it was the war between the allied forces +the DE GAULLE forces and the vichy forces : the july 4th 1940 the royal navy attack the french vichy fleet in MERS EL KEBIR (ALGERIA)harbor because the englishs were afraid that the germans capture and used this fleet to used against great britain.
after this event, angry,many french pilots decided to continue the war in the vichy air force and there was a very big tensions and even fights(but i'm not sure) between free french forces and vichy force(only on the ground,no air combats).after the TORCH operation of the allied forces ,all the north africa vichy forces join the allied but there was a very bad atmosphere betwwen the "DE GAULLE GUYS" of the first hour and the news who join after TORCH, the first said that the seconds are a cowards and join the allied in their own interests ...i don't know the point of view of PIERRE LE GLOAN,the only thing i can say is that was a dark page of our history,but it is good to be honest,there were a french cowards,there were a french heroes,and the others who "didn't know...what to do".
even actually the question is sore...happy for us A HERO as MONSIEUR JEAN MOULIN(who prefer died under the torture instead of said the names of menbers of the resistance to the ennemy)AND A LOT OF OTHERS save the honor of FRANCE and win the respect from the allied...