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[Bearcat]

That's a bug.. The AI should be able to get full boost without that.. and klook at the trail... it is too even.. too angular...

[rollnloop]

AFAIK, smoke at full power is quite documented on late war german acft, due to use of synthetic fuel that did not burn well. Now i don't have any old movie handy, but maybe someone can link one that shows the effet ?

Now IL2 defaut effects are quite poor, and this feature would need a better effect, but it's expected in a soon later release, if i read well http://ultrapack.il2war.com/page/readme

[Sokol1]

BC,

I notice the same brown smoke trail in AI in 4.10.1 vanila, when they make some maneuvers or hit some altitude:



It is eventually - i think that are related with altitude.

Sokol1

[Daniël]

@ Sokol1. I think it has to do with planes with carburettor engines, like the Merlin engine of the Hurricanes in your pictures. As an example: the German Daimler-Benz engines have direct fuel injection, so it can take much more negative Gs. Carburettor engines can't. The fuel won't reach the engine so the combustion isn't good, so you get dirty thick smoke and the engine may stop.

It is possible that it is related with altitude too, because on high altitude is less oxygen, so the combustion will be different.

[Bearcat]

Okie doke... I stand corrected.. I don't remember ever seeing it..

[TeeJay82]

The vapor trails is unburnt Fuel

[II./JG1_Wilcke]

Originally Posted by Daniël

@ Sokol1. I think it has to do with planes with carburettor engines, like the Merlin engine of the Hurricanes in your pictures. As an example: the German Daimler-Benz engines have direct fuel injection, so it can take much more negative Gs. Carburettor engines can't. The fuel won't reach the engine so the combustion isn't good, so you get dirty thick smoke and the engine may stop.

It is possible that it is related with altitude too, because on high altitude is less oxygen, so the combustion will be different.

I could be wrong but in reading Black Cross and Red Star the accounts mention the fact that when the Bf109 would be put into a dive the Throttle Command system would enrich the mixture thereby producing trails of smoke out of the stacks. The Russians would think they had gotten kill when in fact they had not. More conjecture, story telling?

Would this happen at max throttle settings, with MW injection, the mixture would be enriched automatically prevent pre-detonation and produce the smoke trail?

[Gribbers]

Finally downloaded UP3.0...followed the instructions down to the letter...when i click on the new desktop icon I get the following message pop up:

UP3.jpg

Have contacted the UP website but not expecting an speedy reply...has anyone else had this?

Have never modded before so not sure if this is normal or not.

Thanks in advance!

[Aracno]

Yes, its normal.
You need to install the game in another folder, wherever you want except Program Files and Program Files (x86) folders.

[Daniël]

Originally Posted by II./JG1_Wilcke

I could be wrong but in reading Black Cross and Red Star the accounts mention the fact that when the Bf109 would be put into a dive the Throttle Command system would enrich the mixture thereby producing trails of smoke out of the stacks. The Russians would think they had gotten kill when in fact they had not. More conjecture, story telling?

Would this happen at max throttle settings, with MW injection, the mixture would be enriched automatically prevent pre-detonation and produce the smoke trail?

I have no idea about that, but it sounds interesting.
In a CloD Friday update a long time ago somebody posted a picure of different exhaust flames which can occur. It was a nice picture which Team Daidalos could maybe use.

I'm sure the smoke can be affected by fuel type. The Germans didn't have very good fuel compared to the allied fuel. So maybe it produced more smoke at full throttle.
I'm not an expert though I think there are many people at this forum who know more than me about engines, combustion and smoke types.