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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-25-2011, 05:45 PM
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Nice revisit to a 10 year old convention, Seiseki. +1 for Balls.

I think a large reason to not change this is actually "tradition".

Traditionally these colors are etched in our brains and it's one less thing to worry with increased workload, detail, situational awareness that comes with a much higher fidelty simulation.

Keep it the same. No reason to change now.

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Well said. Totally agree with you, Gunny.
By the way, if you look at the matter from a political point of view, surely the colour for Fascists and Nazis was black, while you know who had Red Guards and the Order of Red Banner, and celebrated Red October.
By the way, 80% of war in Europe was Blacks versus Reds.

My opinion? Keep Red and Blue as they are, please. It’s just a fine Il2 Sturmovik tradition.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:43 PM
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Balls. Since when was Russia ever considered Europe? I take it you arent from Europe to say something stupid like that. Who gives a stuff about the Russians when you are playing a game about the Battle of Britain which was about the British against the Germans?

I couldnt give a damn about Il2 'tradition' either. For me the good guys are always blue and the bad guys are red, simple as that.

But for me playing 'blue and red teams' is a complete put off that immediately says to me I am playing a crap computer game and not a decent simulation. In real life it was all about the Allies and the Axis.

But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.
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red = allies
Blue = axis

why complciate things?
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Old 04-25-2011, 10:00 PM
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Balls. Since when was Russia ever considered Europe? I take it you arent from Europe to say something stupid like that. Who gives a stuff about the Russians when you are playing a game about the Battle of Britain which was about the British against the Germans?

I couldnt give a damn about Il2 'tradition' either. For me the good guys are always blue and the bad guys are red, simple as that.

But for me playing 'blue and red teams' is a complete put off that immediately says to me I am playing a crap computer game and not a decent simulation. In real life it was all about the Allies and the Axis.

But if you want a decent 'tradition' WW2 model soldiers were always green for the allies and blue for the germans so why not do it like that - far more sensible that some unheard of IL2 tradition.
From wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia#Geography

Russia is also the ninth most populous nation with 143 million people.[9] It extends across the whole of northern Asia and 40% of Europe, spanning 9 time zones and incorporating a wide range of environments and landforms.

Apart from that your post is quite possibly the biggest pile of bollocks I have had the misfortune to read on this forum.
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Nats- your rant is actually very funny, and very wrong in so many ways (I cant be bothered pointing out how wrong, except to say that without the Soviet Union bleeding the Wermacht and Luftwaffe white there would have been no chance of the Allied nations storming into Europe).
When this series continues into other theatres of WW2 it will make a lot of sense to keep a simple colour scheme to set which side is which.
No-one is trying to rewrite history that Britain was communist, if that is what is bothering you
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:25 AM
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I dont want to play a red communist in the BOB and thats what the makers of this game seem to be suggesting I do. And I am sure many in the US will feel the same when they buy the game.
I just wonder then, how they feel having communist color in their flag?
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Old 04-27-2011, 02:18 AM
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I just wonder then, how they feel having communist color in their flag?
+1

some western and us like to talk bullshits just can't get over their propaganda, one side info, how poor they are.
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:32 AM
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LOL!- CoD is a communist plot.
They are using this game as a way to restart the cold war- thanks for enlightening me. Now i realise Oleg Maddox was a sneaky USSR operative making me play as a red communist
On a more serious note- the intention all along has been that this game will be a series covering all the major theatres of WW2, so it would be unnecessarily confusing to swap colours depending on theatres. When Pacific Fighters came out it caused a lot of angst among those who were familiar with the history of the Pacific theatre to see the Japanese noted as blue. In the end it's not a big deal, but if you want to turn it into an argument about history i'm game (but the last time i did that the thread got deleted).
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:41 AM
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Like why on earth in the new patch missions setup you have a British flag for the red team and yet they dont have a German flag for the blue team? Seems a bit daft.
Don't forget Italy. It is UK vs Germany/Italy in CoD.
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Yes alright I admit it this thread is getting bloody stupid now. There are more important things to discuss that what colour the icons are.

Like why on earth in the new patch missions setup you have a British flag for the red team and yet they dont have a German flag for the blue team? Seems a bit daft.
It seems to me that the only color that "truly" matters here is...green.


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As for the red and blue, there is tradition there. Many war games (real life) used those colours.

Thats what I was saying....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Fla...s_Air_Force%29

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Old 04-26-2011, 09:42 PM
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Nats- your rant is actually very funny, and very wrong in so many ways (I cant be bothered pointing out how wrong, except to say that without the Soviet Union bleeding the Wermacht and Luftwaffe white there would have been no chance of the Allied nations storming into Europe).
When this series continues into other theatres of WW2 it will make a lot of sense to keep a simple colour scheme to set which side is which.
No-one is trying to rewrite history that Britain was communist, if that is what is bothering you
I've tried to write an honest response twice now to nat's posts on this - and both times have given up and binned the efforts, as I realised the utter ridiculousness of what I was trying to put down in words.

The bolded part above gets the gist.

6 pages on this non-issue??!!
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