Warning: This game is on the edge. Support it or watch it die.

[camel24hrs]

As long as there is MONEY coming in there is a future for this game. All the whining is not going to make a difference one way or the other about if this sim stays in development......MONEY...... it is all about the MONEY. That is why they released a sim that was in no way ready to fly..........MONEY. When the MONEY drys up so will the game development. So quit whining about treating the developer with kid gloves...

Originally Posted by camel24hrs

When the MONEY drys up so will the game development.

and we have an unfinished released game because of what exactly ? i do not suggest anyones money has run out. but there greed sure has caused the release in the state it has. ubisoft.

ubisoft dont care, they are quite happy to lay ruin here. they seek the 1 game thats capable of generating funds in the billions. and they are more interested in producing that title over and over, year after year with no real technological advancements. Spending money in this realm is simply a futile expereince given what there aspirations are. OM didnt leave by throwing his toys out the pram. he left because of the bastereds at ubisoft laying ruin to everything he stands for and that what we appreciate so much.

[Kano_Magnus]

Originally Posted by Baron

Thats just it, we get it, we got it now, what, 1 gazillion times.

Apparently not.

Now Les:

you can't then turn around and complain if it doesn't work out for you

I can, and I will, especially as this is the only game I've ever had trouble with from Steam. The publishers knew the sorry state of the game and released it through channels that prevent customer returns. This is probably going to piss some people off.

If you bought into the new series not knowing that, then you just didn't know what you were buying into

I must have missed the bit on the website that says Maddox Games are allowed to release shoddy half-arsed products w/o comeback. Can you point me to the link? I mean if it doesn't exist then new customers who aren't aware of a glorious 10 year legacy of releasing broken games might be concerned. This is probably going to piss some people off.

complaining about the initial release state of the game, is pointless and disrespectful and inconsiderate, and is probably going to piss some people off.

Having a game that runs like it's on a 286 when you have a PC far in advance of recommended system specs may, just perchance, piss some people off. Rumours that the real beta testers were ignored may also lead to some people being pissed off. Gaming is a business, Maddox Games are not personal friends and have wittingly or unwittingly pulled a bait-and-switch on their loyal customers. I think this may count as 'disrespectful', possibly even 'inconsiderate'. When the bad reviews and bad rep spread over the internet it may even fall into the category of 'pointless'.

Having the game continually and relentlessly represented as a totally unplayable mess with no redeeming features, is probably going to piss some people off.

There seems to be a not insignificant number of people who share that experience, and swatting their concerns away with some blithe BS about how some other game from a million years ago needed a patch too is probably going to piss those people off.

when two people buy the same game and one thinks it's the best thing ever and one thinks it's the worst thing ever, which person would you rather hear from?

The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...

Originally Posted by Kano_Magnus

Apparently not.

Now Les:



I can, and I will, especially as this is the only game I've ever had trouble with from Steam. The publishers knew the sorry state of the game and released it through channels that prevent customer returns. This is probably going to piss some people off.



I must have missed the bit on the website that says Maddox Games are allowed to release shoddy half-arsed products w/o comeback. Can you point me to the link? I mean if it doesn't exist then new customers who aren't aware of a glorious 10 year legacy of releasing broken games might be concerned. This is probably going to piss some people off.



Having a game that runs like it's on a 286 when you have a PC far in advance of recommended system specs may, just perchance, piss some people off. Rumours that the real beta testers were ignored may also lead to some people being pissed off. Gaming is a business, Maddox Games are not personal friends and have wittingly or unwittingly pulled a bait-and-switch on their loyal customers. I think this may count as 'disrespectful', possibly even 'inconsiderate'. When the bad reviews and bad rep spread over the internet it may even fall into the category of 'pointless'.



There seems to be a not insignificant number of people who share that experience, and swatting their concerns away with some blithe BS about how some other game from a million years ago needed a patch too is probably going to piss those people off.



The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...

Epic, harsh, but Epic

[David Hayward]

Originally Posted by Kano_Magnus

The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...

I've read a lot of the bitching whine-fests, and they don't seem to be very helpful. The game clearly has some problems. I get it. But, someone whining about how poorly coded it is does not seem particularly helpful to me. How does it help you?

[Strike]

hey, another patch is coming up!

Cheers!

[jt_medina]

Yes, absolutely this sim is doomed...
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=21944

We are working our butts off trying to get a beta patch done for right now, which may still happen - stay tuned. In the worst case, this might be Monday. However we'll do everything we can to roll it out in 3-4 hours.

Stuff in this patch:

1. Major changes to online code, statistics, stability, etc.

2. More performance increases, including streamlined block loading that lets you switch between planes over England and France instantaneously (then watch the landscape underneath load in).

3. Force feedback.

4. True full screen, VSync.

5. Various changes in aircraft animations, FM, etc - a huge list.

6. Lots of changes to ground object AI and DM - another huge list.

7. New IL-2 style QMB missions.

We've also been working on SLI and Crossfire support. Crossfire is probably a couple of weeks out, while SLI is most likely going to wait for the next driver release from NVidia. By the way, SLI/Crossfire hardware should no longer cause slow-downs as of the last patch, so this shouldn't be as huge a let-down as it could have been.

Back to the trenches for me! Stay tuned!

(sorry Russian fans, I really wanted to simul-post this in Russian and English as usual but I'm kind of running around with my hair on fire)

[Faustnik]

I paid for the UBI download a 2 months ago. I can't wait for my copy Tuesday!

I remember IL-2 1.0 had some stutters and other issues.

It sound like 1C is working fast to improve CoD.

[Les]

Originally Posted by Kano_Magnus

...I can, and I will, especially as this is the only game I've ever had trouble with from Steam. The publishers knew the sorry state of the game and released it through channels that prevent customer returns. This is probably going to piss some people off...I must have missed the bit on the website that says Maddox Games are allowed to release shoddy half-arsed products w/o comeback. Can you point me to the link? I mean if it doesn't exist then new customers who aren't aware of a glorious 10 year legacy of releasing broken games might be concerned. This is probably going to piss some people off...Having a game that runs like it's on a 286 when you have a PC far in advance of recommended system specs may, just perchance, piss some people off. Rumours that the real beta testers were ignored may also lead to some people being pissed off. Gaming is a business, Maddox Games are not personal friends and have wittingly or unwittingly pulled a bait-and-switch on their loyal customers. I think this may count as 'disrespectful', possibly even 'inconsiderate'. When the bad reviews and bad rep spread over the internet it may even fall into the category of 'pointless'...There seems to be a not insignificant number of people who share that experience, and swatting their concerns away with some blithe BS about how some other game from a million years ago needed a patch too is probably going to piss those people off...The latter, they're probably nearer the mark and in this case are proving helpful to a lot of people who've spared themselves the bother of fighting Oleg's army of fawning morons...

Sorry, to you and the spectators who seem to enjoy this sort of stuff, but I'm just going to dismiss all that, feel free to see it as proof that you're correct and justified or however you want to see it, but this is the exact reason I don't usually post in these sort of threads. I'm tempted to get into the cut and paste thing, and there are counter-points to what you're saying, but you've just proven, to me anyway, there's nothing I could say that you yourself wouldn't outright dismiss or re-interpret to suit your preferred point of view. Sorry if my opinions offended you in some way and that you feel so hard-done-by, hope it all works out for you in the end.

[Kano_Magnus]

Originally Posted by Les

Sorry, to you and the spectators who seem to enjoy this sort of stuff, but I'm just going to dismiss all that, feel free to see it as proof that you're correct and justified or however you want to see it, but this is the exact reason I don't usually post in these sort of threads. I'm tempted to get into the cut and paste thing, and there are counter-points to what you're saying, but you've just proven, to me anyway, there's nothing I could say that you yourself wouldn't outright dismiss or re-interpret to suit your preferred point of view. Sorry if my opinions offended you in some way and that you feel so hard-done-by, hope it all works out for you in the end.

It's OK for you to lose an argument Les but there's no need to be such a fanny about it, especially considering how arrogant and condescending you were when you thought you had the upper hand. Never mind though. In summary: