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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 04-22-2011, 04:05 AM
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Famous last words...

We'll see. Hopefully all the issues will be sorted by the time of the US release. Otherwise that may be it.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:08 AM
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Famous last words...

We'll see. Hopefully all the issues will be sorted by the time of the US release. Otherwise that may be it.
The problem is, the reviews are already in, the gaming mags didn't wait for the US release. In fact, they may not have waited for the last patch. The public pronouncements are already in.

Hopefully they amend their reviews if future patches make a difference.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:26 AM
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Reviews are a bit pointless these days , I review through youtube . I watch videos , I read comments and go from there. Magazines would have a pretty small influence IMO , the same for online articles.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:37 AM
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Honestly, the game is in a sad state. A few moments in CoD left room for hope, especially the beautiful graphics, but I've gotten less and less motivation to start it up,
What we've been sold here is an alpha version. It's not even beta - in beta versions, all functionality is there, though probably buggy, Alpha versions have different things missing as in "not yet implemented".
And I think just that is the case in CoD.
I wonder why things like radio functionality still haven't been fixed. If I had to, I'd probably bet that it hasn't even been implemented yet (so it's not searching for a bug to restore functionality but programming it from the ground up). From a professional developer team that charges money for their software, I pretty much expect such things to get fixed along the way.
The same goes for countless other issues - faulty FMs, very poor colliision modelling, non-functional loadout options, non-functional aircraft options (yes, I know it works in the FMB), devastating online functionality so far, weird wind modelling on the ground. Some less annoying things but still in no circumstance indicative for professionals are for example the 'nice' WIN95-style ingame menues (if at least it had been steam widgets...) or the MIDI music that plays only sometimes in the menues...
Add in to the mix the huge, HUGE step backwards in terms of immersion, compared to 1946, that I mentioned elsewhere already...How on earth could they not bother about (de-)briefing maps and infos, a really non-existant campaign functionality (different single player missions after each other, with no consequences whatsoever in between missions, no videos and so on. The 'extra' spitfire cockpit with the lady on your lap doesn't help much, to be honest...)? There's no ranks and awards and there are no dynamic campaigns, yet they called it a day and declared the thing 'gone gold'.

So yes, I'm quite disappointed by now. If things get fixed in 6 month's time, well, they better should have done that. But the damage has been done right now.
A 'proud' owner of the CoD CE.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:45 AM
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Honestly, the game is in a sad state. A few moments in CoD left room for hope, especially the beautiful graphics, but I've gotten less and less motivation to start it up,
What we've been sold here is an alpha version. It's not even beta - in beta versions, all functionality is there, though probably buggy, Alpha versions have different things missing as in "not yet implemented".
And I think just that is the case in CoD.
I wonder why things like radio functionality still haven't been fixed. If I had to, I'd probably bet that it hasn't even been implemented yet (so it's not searching for a bug to restore functionality but programming it from the ground up). From a professional developer team that charges money for their software, I pretty much expect such things to get fixed along the way.
The same goes for countless other issues - faulty FMs, very poor colliision modelling, non-functional loadout options, non-functional aircraft options (yes, I know it works in the FMB), devastating online functionality so far, weird wind modelling on the ground. Some less annoying things but still in no circumstance indicative for professionals are for example the 'nice' WIN95-style ingame menues (if at least it had been steam widgets...) or the MIDI music that plays only sometimes in the menues...
Add in to the mix the huge, HUGE step backwards in terms of immersion, compared to 1946, that I mentioned elsewhere already...How on earth could they not bother about (de-)briefing maps and infos, a really non-existant campaign functionality (different single player missions after each other, with no consequences whatsoever in between missions, no videos and so on. The 'extra' spitfire cockpit with the lady on your lap doesn't help much, to be honest...)? There's no ranks and awards and there are no dynamic campaigns, yet they called it a day and declared the thing 'gone gold'.

So yes, I'm quite disappointed by now. If things get fixed in 6 month's time, well, they better should have done that. But the damage has been done right now.
A 'proud' owner of the CoD CE.
Here is an example of exactly what I am talking about.

A rehash of the same old complaints... for what point?

DO YOU WANT THE GAME TO BE CANCELLED?

It seems so and you may get what you want.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:01 AM
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The name Clod is fecked now. I wouldn't be surprised if 1C release a "new" kinda Forgotten Battles in 6 months or so like they did with IL-2. All functions incorporated and patched etc.

I'll support 1C and Olex and the gang whatever they do cause they gave me so much fun with the IL-2 series (especially PF).
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:16 AM
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If you haven't seen them already, the reviews in German gaming magazines, on Gamespot and PC Gamer have panned the game.
Your point is …

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Maybe those reviews were deserved, but the fact is, if this game goes under, no one is going to suffer but us flight simmers.
Everyone that dished out fifty bucks is suffering now …

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All those posters on these boards who I see whining and complaining better understand something:
What they understand is they bought a game that went gold when it was still in its beta stage of development …

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If this game goes under, you will have nothing to do but whine. No game, no development, NOTHING.
They have spent 5 or 6 years developing it …

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The only smart thing to do at this point is to support the developers, give them POSITIVE feedback on issues.
If they want support and “POSITIVE” feedback they need to start a FAQ “DEVELOPERS FRIDAY UPDATE THREAD” and keep there customers up-to-date …

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Don't harp on issues which have been mentioned a hundred times, there is no point.
That’s going to happen … …

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Unless you WANT the game to fail.
Shirley, You Jest! There’s not a member here that wants that …

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I personally have bought a copy online, and will be buying another hard copy in the stores when it arrives.
I canceled both my preorders, but as soon as CoD available here in the US I will buy a collectors edition and a regular copy, but not as a beta game …

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DO NOT KID YOURSELF. THIS GAME IS ON THE EDGE.
Have some faith in the Oleg's Team … and try to be a bit more “POSITIVE”

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Old 04-22-2011, 05:31 AM
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I guess the upside is that pirates/ thieves will only hack into a product which won't work for them, what with updates only available through Steam and all
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:18 AM
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They do … they are exercising there freedom of speech rights …
Freedom of speech does not exist on a privately owned internet forum, my friend. That idea is something you can knock out of your head right away.

Their rules, their laws, and you accepted that once you agreed to the ToS/EULA for the boards. They can ban you for using the word freedom if they so choose, and there's nothing you can do about it. Hell, they don't even need a reason.

On topic: I don't think the game is going to tank at all. 1C's reputation, built through MANY years in IL2, is too good for that. To be honest, I'd be very, very suprised if we don't sit here and laugh about the launch of CLoD in 3 years time and then praise the work the team did to get it to whatever state it's in at that time. And 1C isn't going to tank due to this at all. They've got more legs to stand on, and while CLoD is a serious investment in terms of time and money for them, it's by no means their only cash-cow.

Me, I'm a patient creature. The €50 I spent on the game is well-spent money in my book, as I know the game will become better and better as each week passes. And should it not, I'll just shrug and move on. It's not the end of the world, and neither is it for anyone else.
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Old 04-22-2011, 04:37 PM
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Everyone that dished out fifty bucks is suffering now …
Could you please describe the "Suffering" that has been caused by your spending of that $50. The $50 you apparently had no critical use for and spent on a game.. Lets at least be honest here.. "Suffering?" Come on...
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