Su26?

[Fuchs]

hi everyone!

someone here to bet with me that the Su-26 will be released with other featured airplanes as an payware special package? (COD "Oleg Maddox Spécial edition" could be a good name )

see you in the virtual skies

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[adonys]

I'm not betting, as there's a high probability to actually happen.

Yet, if IL2 CoD will follow RoF path, asking you to pay, even if only 2 USD (it's 8 USD for RoF) for each new flayable airplane/cockpit, I think I'll never buy anything else from them.

I'm willing to pay around 15-20 euro for an addon at each 6-12 months, but it will need to contain at least 20 new flyable planes, beside game code improvements. Otherwise, it's just rip-off and it is not for me.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by adonys

I'm not betting, as there's a high probability to actually happen.

Yet, if IL2 CoD will follow RoF path, asking you to pay, even if only 2 USD (it's 8 USD for RoF) for each new flayable airplane/cockpit, I think I'll never buy anything else from them.

I'm willing to pay around 15-20 euro for an addon at each 6-12 months, but it will need to contain at least 20 new flyable planes, beside game code improvements. Otherwise, it's just rip-off and it is not for me.

Do you even realize how much it costs to model a plane to the level present in this sim? I know a simple single engine plane in Il-2 was around $2000-$3000$.

For this sim, I'm expectin the models alone to cost around 5000 euros. Twenty planes will cost around eighty to a hundred thousand euros.
Who on earth, in this day, will do all that and sell it for 15 bucks?

....And do all that in six to 12 months.

Do you even realize what your expectations are?
It would be awesome to be able to buy as complicated planes, as they are in this game, for the price they sell simple byplanes in ROF, but they can't.
WW2 planes are significantly more complicated and complex.

[ElAurens]

The problem with single plane add ons, as RoF does it, is lack of context.

OK here is a new 1942 plane, enjoy!! The problem is you just introduced a single 1942 plane into a 1940 or '41 plane set, and have no added maps, objects, etc... to make it's use appropriate.

Oleg's method of a major addon, with maps, objects, a few aircraft, is a much better approach.

[Blackdog_kt]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

The problem with single plane add ons, as RoF does it, is lack of context.

OK here is a new 1942 plane, enjoy!! The problem is you just introduced a single 1942 plane into a 1940 or '41 plane set, and have no added maps, objects, etc... to make it's use appropriate.

Oleg's method of a major addon, with maps, objects, a few aircraft, is a much better approach.

Ditto. It's not about the money, i feel perfectly fine paying $30-$50 per add-on just like it was with the previous IL-2 series.

[BP_Tailspin]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Oleg's method of a major addon, with maps, objects, a few aircraft, is a much better approach.

+1

[adonys]

Originally Posted by Jaws2002

Do you even realize how much it costs to model a plane to the level present in this sim? I know a simple single engine plane in Il-2 was around $2000-$3000$.

For this sim, I'm expectin the models alone to cost around 5000 euros. Twenty planes will cost around eighty to a hundred thousand euros.
Who on earth, in this day, will do all that and sell it for 15 bucks?

....And do all that in six to 12 months.

Do you even realize what your expectations are?
It would be awesome to be able to buy as complicated planes, as they are in this game, for the price they sell simple byplanes in ROF, but they can't.
WW2 planes are significantly more complicated and complex.

I think I know better than you, sir, I am working in game development industry, as lead game designer and senior producer.

An IL2 CoD model should be around 2-3 weeks of work for the exterior model, and 4-6 weeks of work for the interior with a single modeler. which mean it should cost them between 1500 and 2000 euro with the wadges from Russia for a flyable plane. 20 planes let's say 50k euro.

Selling them as an addon with 15-20 euro means you need around 3300 customers to pay for the modelers. And I'm sure they would sell it to more than 5000 customers.

[Trooper117]

I will certainly buy any extra WWII aircraft to enhance the game, or any other expansion to the planeset, but I'm not fussed at all about an Su-26 if it ever appears.

[Jaws2002]

Originally Posted by adonys

I think I know better than you, sir, I am working in game development industry, as lead game designer and senior producer.

An IL2 CoD model should be around 2-3 weeks of work for the exterior model, and 4-6 weeks of work for the interior with a single modeler. which mean it should cost them between 1500 and 2000 euro with the wadges from Russia for a flyable plane. 20 planes let's say 50k euro.

Selling them as an addon with 15-20 euro means you need around 3300 customers to pay for the modelers. And I'm sure they would sell it to more than 5000 customers.

So why don't you do it?

I'll be your first customer. 20 euro for 20 planes. That's paying an euro per plane.
Think about this. ROF is selling, straight to the customers, without any kind of middle man, a ww1 simple aircraft, with 3-5 gauges and 4 levers in the pit, no clickable cockpits, for seven bucks a plane.
If you think you can make significantly more complex ww2 aircraft, for Cliffs of Dover, to the quality levels present in the game, for an euro per plane, I'll be your customer for life.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Originally Posted by adonys

I think I know better than you, sir, I am working in game development industry, as lead game designer and senior producer.

An IL2 CoD model should be around 2-3 weeks of work for the exterior model, and 4-6 weeks of work for the interior with a single modeler. which mean it should cost them between 1500 and 2000 euro with the wadges from Russia for a flyable plane. 20 planes let's say 50k euro.

Selling them as an addon with 15-20 euro means you need around 3300 customers to pay for the modelers. And I'm sure they would sell it to more than 5000 customers.

Actually, IIRC Oleg said it takes about 3-6 months to model a plane completely.