Complex engine management

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by Langnasen

I'm right up for that. It'll sort the wheat from the chaff and put most of the old IL2 'aces' in their place too.

It will only put even more people in the fully automated Luftwaffe planes, IMO.

[Azimech]

A bit more info on Manifold Pressure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkGEWZo2lsM

[JG53Frankyboy]

Originally Posted by Zorin

It will only put even more people in the fully automated Luftwaffe planes, IMO.

at least the manual say that the 109 has manual pitch only... that can be tough !
true , you havent to care about mixture in it

[pupaxx]

My question is:
all this work load in CEM does it affects only human pilot or even AI?
What I look for in a Flight simulation is certainly the realism. Some of you rightly said that CEM exige a disciplined management for each inflight situation (take-off, climbing, climbing on combat power, cruise, pursuit and descent). Will we the sole to face this load in combat or AI enemy as well will experience major difficulties in shot us down?
Cheers

[Azimech]

Good question.

Maybe there's a simple way to simulate such things?

Rookie: adjusts all settings but much too slow but precise. This one has almost no SA. The ones with too much eye for detail for their own good.
Overheating doesn't happen very quick but forgets to look out his window and sometimes becomes one with his instruments when he digs a hole half way to New Zealand.

Or, the ADHD type: adjusts all settings much faster than an ace but overshoots his chosen values and engine limits all the time, and once in every 3 times forgets one (oil radiator, coolant radiator, supercharger or prop pitch). Forgets to check temperature 50% of the time and when overheating, tends to overreact so performance drops much more than needed. When being chased (stressed) tends to overheat 90% of the time within one minute. Loss of engine power during combat 10% every 5 minutes. Chance of destroying the engine 75% within 15 minutes during combat.

Average: Forgets a setting once every 6 times, quicker to respond to overheating, Loss of engine power 10% every 15 minutes ...

Veteran: Forgets a setting once every 12 times ...

You get the idea.

And the nice thing is, just using counters and timers you don't really need AI routines, because in forgetting stuff there is no intelligence involved

And if the AI wants to set anything, it chooses a value, say 65% throttle, what the game could do is deviate from this setting with a fixed percentage as defined by the skill of the pilot. So the rookie sets 65% but it turns out to be 50% or 80% until the AI chooses a new value. A veteran would get 68% or 62%,

An Ace would be one with his machine (and this way they really become deadly!!)

Imagine formation flying with a bunch of rookies

So there's hardly additional CPU load and such a system could be implemented within a few days, if not present.

[Zorin]

Originally Posted by JG53Frankyboy

at least the manual say that the 109 has manual pitch only... that can be tough !
true , you havent to care about mixture in it

For now, true, but with the war going on the Allies are still mostly stuck with manual labor, while the German planes are fully automated.

[MD_Wild_Weasel]

omg, this is gunna be so dam cool, only one more day to go and it should be through my front door. CEM what seperates the boys from the men, (just hope i can be that man )

[Multimetal]

I think most people are going to have to do a lot of practice flying to become proficient with their aircraft. There's a good reason why military pilots are trained on aircraft with gradually increasing complexity, as managing a WW2 era fighter effectively takes an awful lot of pilot skill and training! All this being modeled in the sim is an extremely good thing IMO.