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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-25-2011, 11:52 AM
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your a turd tree, and you should have been perm banned from here years ago because your motives and behavior will never change, your only ever sprouting negative crap about this sim

its obvious to all that bother looking that you are now also making posts in several forums how you rejoice in the problems reported by the ubi filter debacle. not that the epilepsy filter problems are in any way relevant to good/bad the actual CoD sim is (which is great by all indications), but to you any problems reported with the sim are a reason for joy, its a twisted perverted mental state you are locked into
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i am canceling my order as well till this is solved

the only hopeful solution i see for this is that for the russian market they will make this filter optional (or remove it completely) and put a warning on the box etc ... we can then download it online from russia, or buy it from a russian amazone site etc..

one issue people havnt mentioned in this thread yet, those in danger of having epilepsy induced are most likely people who dont yet know they have the condition or that they are predisposed to it (since epileptics generally will be told to avoid anything that involves rapidly alternating bright lights etc..).secondly, even "normal" people who are not epileptic can have epilepsy (or migraine etc) induced in them if you just expose them long enough to severe enough of a visual irritation of the right type (be this from games or other flashing lights etc).

point being: with these pc games (and movies etc) it is not a bad thing to have the game creators and programmers being made aware of some of these issues so that they take account of it where possible (meaning we might have slightly uglier prop spin, rather then more realistic ones that have an increased risk to them). and in the same way games/movies are screened by national censors for content and age rating, games could be screened for "epilepsy inducing rating" so that the worst visual effects that might be a problem are toned down.

sadly this is not how the risk reduction is being implemented, ubi seems to have located some half baked idea and is blanket implementing on all its products, even if it kills the game itself. dont have any illusions, ubi will not do anything to solve this (given their previous total disregard of customer interests, even if it completely kills a game series). our only hope is for oleg's crew to find a work around for the russian market, and us somehow getting a hold of that product line

meanwhile cancel all your orders and hit ubi in the only place they care, the sales revenue. buying directly from oleg in russia probably also significantly increases oleg's profit margin on the sale, so its supporting him in trying to find a solution
Seems you have lost faith my little friend, Im still buying it.
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:55 AM
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Oh god...
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:55 AM
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http://www.epilepsy.org.uk/campaigns...ng/video-games


Here's an interesting article detailing the history of the epilepsy problem as it faces game companies.


I'm not sure if this filter was to be implemented by 1C or not. Being a Russian company the regulations may be different. UBI has voluntarily used the testing method for a while and according to the article has edited out the offending effects. I'm also not sure if it was a standing order for all develpoers to employ the epilepsy filter.

Here's the issue at hand and why UBI has decided to go the route they do.

"Most video games carry some warning somewhere on their packaging that refers to epilepsy. These warnings are a voluntary measure by video games manufacturers to try and keep gamers safe. These warnings are all very well – provided you know that you have PSE. Unfortunately – as in the case of Gaye’s son – not everybody does.
Gaye says: “Three quarters of people – 76 per cent – won’t know that they have PSE until something triggers a seizure.”"
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Old 03-25-2011, 11:58 AM
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God mate, feel free i will be encouraging you to do so.
Lol, well if I promise to refrain if I'm right could you extend the same courtesy to me if it turns out that you were the one that's right?

I do think that you should at least word your posts in a less aggressive way.. You have rubbed a lot if people the wrong way.

P.S. I'm thankful that nuggetx is not on this board, he makes your post look constructive..
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:03 PM
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So much anxiety, millions of questions, tons of rumors, rivers of tears but very little facts.

I really hoping that someone from the dev team would step in today and set the record straight before we all go mental and our collective frustration creates a nuclear explosion of some sort.

These details would put atleast my mind at ease:
1) Video showing how it runs on a med-high pc without the epileptic filter
2) Video showing how it runs on the same box with the epileptic filter
3) Current plans and preliminary schedules to fix the issues
4) Information if there are any ways to workaround the filter (russian version or whatever)

Not too much to ask as the core customer base seems to be in crisis!
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:04 PM
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This forum will never stop to amaze me.

First it was hype and eagerness for a new title.

--- Then the release date was announced.

Weeks of Nerd Rage because the game was going to be released via Steam.

--- Game Releases , a few louzy vids (less than 10 - 15 seconds are posted) from users with mediocre HW

Now the Nerd Rage has everyone is bitching up a storm about a filter that reduces FPS. Because they can't play on max detail..

Turn up Armed Assault 2 on Max detail and view distance and go post your nerd rage comments on their forum because you can't see a tank 4 miles out. Mabye it looks like a dot in the screen. hah..

Regardless I'll be supporting the team and playing / enjoying the game.

I'm laughing at all the ppl canceling preorders. EveryGame has problems during release, are we not forgetting the original IL2. and eventually the bugs were worked out of that.
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:04 PM
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ahh tree switching to being hypocritical and claiming suddenly to be lilly white when it suits him

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" I told you so thread" by tree-up at simhq.com
Is it to early for this, or should i wait a week or two??
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3244297

he posted that crap once the reports of the ubi epilepsy filter problems were coming in, even when nothing much was known about the content and quality of the game itself

predictably, tree was simply rejoicing at problems being reported
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:05 PM
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maybe all that will be in this weeks update?

we are getting a update this week right?

will the update video be running on a pre-screws-up-your-fps-sli-old build?
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Old 03-25-2011, 12:08 PM
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..Tree, you're pathetic.. how old are you btw?
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ahh tree switching to being hypocritical and claiming suddenly to be lilly white when it suits him



http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.ph...ml#Post3244297

he posted that crap once the reports of the ubi epilepsy filter problems were coming in, even when nothing much was known about the content and quality of the game itself

predictably, tree was simply rejoicing at problems being reported
Yes, but im not asking people to cancel their orders, what do you think is going to be more damaging to 1C, me saying i told you so, or you inciting people to cancel their orders. Think on.

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