Shame on you for using STEAM !

[yellonet]

I like Steam, but I won't buy CoD if it's only on Steam.

I've been a long time fan of the IL-2 series and consider CoD to be one of the really great new games of the year.

The thing is I have enough Steam games already, and I like choices, being forced to use Steam to play, no thanks.

Sure, Steam works great most of the time and for most people, so why don't I want all my games on steam?
Well, I just don't want to put all my eggs in one basket so to speak.
What happens if Steam were to stop working?
What if Valve went belly up?
What if they're bought by someone that changes Steam completely?
Furthermore, I like having the disc, it just feels more secure and when you have the game like that you're not depending on some third party to use the game.

The main issue for me personally though is that it's not a choice to buy the Steam version when it perfectly well could have been.

Good luck to Oleg and team.

[TheGrunch]

This perspective is one I agree with. I want to be playing this game in 10 years' time, and I don't ideally want to have to rely on Valve's goodwill to do that. Thankfully though pirates have managed to separate games from Steam before so I can't imagine it would cost Maddox Games a whole heap of effort to do so in a later patch if Steam were to go tits up.

[meshuggahs]

/rant

I think I'm not going to buy the game at all! I mean what if the world seizes to exist on that particular day!

I have a feeling that steam as the major digital distribution platform that actually to some degree saved PC gaming is not going down in a single night just for the sake of it. It's bad buisness to everybody!

Besides it's not as if the game developers could not patch a steam release to actually run without steam if something magical like a unicorn running over Gabe Newell killing him and leaving all his shares to his 5 yr old son who then got tricked out of them by evil nazi-zombies from space whose plan on world domination included on runing down all digitally bought/licensed gaming software from steam for god knows what reason.

And third party this third party that. You're allready depending on a bunch o third parties to get your damn pc even runing that precious copy of windows that eventually with the right hardware and drivers lets you play IL-2:CoD. Not even taking into account your electric and internet providers.

The only real valid point with the steam haters is that it's an aditional process running you might not want there. Well I have a feeling your computer is runing a dozen processes that youre not using or ever will. Just imagine it as one among those that actually is usefull for something!

/rant off

I realy shouldn't visit to this topic

[TheGrunch]

Well exactly. If pirates can do it in a couple of weeks, Oleg and team could do it in a couple of days...plus testing. Two weeks, be sure.

[AWL_Spinner]

I see the poll is currently running 73% in favour (have it, like it/don't have it, will install for CoD).

I love Steam. Completely different kettle of fish to any CD protection nonsense I've had to deal with over the years.

If it's available as a Steam download in it's entirety I'll acquire that way (if I can't get hold of a collectors box in Canada).

Cheers, Spinner

[Space Communist]

As much as I dearly hope both companies are still around, even as the Earth is consumed by the sun during it's dying expansion into a red giant, the chances of Maddox Games/1C outlasting Valve are pretty much non-existent.

[Thee_oddball]

Originally Posted by Space Communist

As much as I dearly hope both companies are still around, even as the Earth is consumed by the sun during it's dying expansion into a red giant, the chances of Maddox Games/1C outlasting Valve are pretty much non-existent.

now now...dont count oleg out...in fact i understand he is working with neurologistds in sweden and Gigabyte to come up with a corticalsynapic interface so we no longer need monitors...talk about full switch...of course if windows is still the OS i wont be using it...being frozen in place because of BSOD and having a friend find you after days of marinating in your own....well you get the picture

[Ibis]

I've used Steam, it's ok but I simply don't want to use it.
I don't have to have a reason or give a reason. I simply want the game on a disc, play it on Hyperlobby, have a backup on my computer, use an IP address, add what Patches my squad wants to use
and in general use my paid for property as I see fit.
I have no reason to help Steam gather whatever, I don't care if Steam exists or not
gadnab it, I simply want to enjoy it and use it as I use 4.09+UP2.01+modded maps of my choice.
I have paid for and own every piece of IL2 that Oleg has produced and would have been happy to pay twice the price.
Hell our computers that we continually upgrade have cost $thousands,
Bugga Steam!
Cheers,
Ibis.

[Kikuchiyo]

Originally Posted by Ibis

I've used Steam, it's ok but I simply don't want to use it.
I don't have to have a reason or give a reason. I simply want the game on a disc, play it on Hyperlobby, have a backup on my computer, use an IP address, add what Patches my squad wants to use
and in general use my paid for property as I see fit.
I have no reason to help Steam gather whatever, I don't care if Steam exists or not
gadnab it, I simply want to enjoy it and use it as I use 4.09+UP2.01+modded maps of my choice.
I have paid for and own every piece of IL2 that Oleg has produced and would have been happy to pay twice the price.
Hell our computers that we continually upgrade have cost $thousands,
Bugga Steam!
Cheers,
Ibis.

Nope you don't have to have a reason. I think the only objection the Steam "defenders" had was the misinformation that many were using to excuse themselves from it's use.
We all have to ask ourselves what principles we stand on, and what our limit of exception is, and I will fault no one for that, but when someone makes up "facts" to back their decision I take exception. So long Ibis I am sure you will be missed in CoD.

S!

[mazex]

Originally Posted by WTE_Galway

The main thing I have picked up from these threads is that steam users seem to be childish arrogant smug and generally a pain in the butt to try and discuss things with.

Which doesn't make playing online in a community full of steam users overly enticing

Not at all like the anti-steam (anti-everything) bunch then? Personally I'm fed up with all negativism here and all this whinig about everything does not lead anywhere. They have chosen to use Steam for some parts and certainly will not change due to the fact that 20 people whine here and in some other forums. It just make them stop reading the constructive criticism that is stuck in between all the crap. Trust me as a development manager myself - after a certain level of negativism in open channels you stop reading and focus on other channels... It's very obvious that this is what has happened here, but people just don't get it. Why do you think Oleg and Ilya are not here any more?