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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Yes I have and like using Steam 256 54.47%
Yes I have and dont like using Steam 67 14.26%
No I do not have Steam but will for CoD 52 11.06%
No I do not have Steam and will not for CoD 95 20.21%
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:11 PM
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the question is:
if you need STEAM only to play ONLINE or to use it in total..

as i said, the blog is not clear in that, at least not for me as a no native english speaker. more clarification from official side would be very nice. and this blog from 7.march is the first mention of STEAM in the CoD development ever!

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Old 03-07-2011, 11:18 PM
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No offence to anyone but I would have thought that last line in the text spells it out pretty clear: "So you will need a Steam account to play the game."
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:28 PM
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than thank you for clarification

EDIT:ups, thx to Codex
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:42 PM
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than thank you for clarification

EDIT:ups, thx to Codex
And my work here is done

I think I'll put together a community FAQ to clear up all of this mess, trouble is I can't access certain websites from work including Steam. This forum is the only freedom I've got
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:51 PM
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What I am saying is that I don't like Steam, and don't like being forced to use it.

I don't care really how many do use it, that is their prerogative.

It's another process (several really) running in the background, phoning home all the time. It's an unnecessary complication.

Damn, I was so looking forward to the new sim.

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Old 03-08-2011, 12:02 AM
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I admire the courage of your convictions. When so many others are having a damn fine time, but you stand apart, refusing to get involved must require a real strength of character.

Btw, I'm running Steam atm, as you'd probably guess. It's using 88mb of memory. By way of comparison Chrome, my browser, is using 217mb.

I have 4 gigs of ram. This footprint is not really killing me. As regards it phoning home - I don't think you have anything to worry about; unless, of course, you do have something to worry about.

Edit: I'd like to recognise the truth of El Auren noting it is a complication. But it is a very, very minor complication, and one that comes with many additional benefits. It's really worth weighing these up judiciously and without prejudice; but all I hear from the NOSTEAM crowd is prejudice and fear.

But hey! It's up to you. Some people just hate moving with the times. As said, IL-2 is a fine piece of software and whilst I regret leaving you back in the last decade, you gotta stay where you're happy. I wish you could come with us.

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Old 03-08-2011, 12:25 AM
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This is kind of a biased survey.

The sort of person that is online and posting on forums is most likely already using Steam. (Most of the real life people I know that play or have played IL2_1946 bought it in a store and have never played it online ever, those people obviously never come to this forum)

That is going to bias the results a bit.
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Old 03-09-2011, 01:13 AM
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No offence to anyone but I would have thought that last line in the text spells it out pretty clear: "So you will need a Steam account to play the game."
Is that for the DOWNLOADED version or a hard disc copy. I DON'T play on line. It's not something I enjoy. My interweb connection is okay..... but I certainly won't download a 10GB file. I just wanna pop the disc in and play OFFLINE. What benefit does STEAM have for me?

My biggest concern that I need to verify is that I will be able to burn DVDs. Almost every UBI game I've bought has caused issues with my DVD burning. I use my PC for work and pleasure. Obviously, work takes precedence over pleasure. I had to download the "IL2 no disc EXE." to play IL2. The other games I shelved.

I know that wasn't STEAM, but it is a concern for me. Does STEAM just verify ownership of the disc, or does it examine my PC for ISO/image file burning software? I can't afford two PCs so CoD may have to be a no go.
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Old 03-09-2011, 06:58 AM
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Steam won't have a bearing on whether or not you can burn the DVD.

Just like any other game out there nowadays it will depend on the DRM system included on the DISC.

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What type of DRM is being used in IL-2 Stumovik: COD?
...uses a new driverless activation solution to manage activations developed by Solidshield with whom T@GES is partnering.

http://www.solidshield.com/en/Products

http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm

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TAGES™ is a new breed of CD/DVD-ROM copy protection which overcomes the inadequacies of the commonly marketed solutions. With TAGES™, the software community takes a great leap forward against piracy by offering several technical breakthroughs. Our main technical asset is our specific mastering process which builds up a programmable "secure area" on the disc. The secured area is used to protect useful application data sets or encryption keys.


TAGES™ secure area concept permits the protection of independent application data sets of the code. By doing so, TAGES™ makes the protection of the executable component or of interactive content straightforward. For developers, the concept is extremely powerful and easy to put in practice: secure specific data that cannot be reproduced on a recordable media.
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Is that for the DOWNLOADED version or a hard disc copy. I DON'T play on line. It's not something I enjoy. My interweb connection is okay..... but I certainly won't download a 10GB file. I just wanna pop the disc in and play OFFLINE. What benefit does STEAM have for me?

My biggest concern that I need to verify is that I will be able to burn DVDs. Almost every UBI game I've bought has caused issues with my DVD burning. I use my PC for work and pleasure. Obviously, work takes precedence over pleasure. I had to download the "IL2 no disc EXE." to play IL2. The other games I shelved.

I know that wasn't STEAM, but it is a concern for me. Does STEAM just verify ownership of the disc, or does it examine my PC for ISO/image file burning software? I can't afford two PCs so CoD may have to be a no go.
It may be possible to install from the DVD (although I can't guarantee it). For sure if it is Steam, you can fetch it from their servers whenever you want.

You can choose to back it up as CD or DVD image files (Steam will create whichever you want for you) and you can burn these ISO or just keep them on another hard drive. You can transfer this to another computer or choose to download the game from the steam servers on any computer.

Benefits of Steam in your case should be:

1. Extremely easily available (from disc, backup discs, backup image files or the Steam servers).
2. There is no install process and no need to use a disc & no-disc cracks.
3. Ability to check that the game is correctly installed & uncorrupted, with any broken files replaced. I.e. no need to uninstall-reinstall.
4. No need to manually download & apply patches (auto patching is an option)
5. If installed through downloading from Steam, it is always the latest patched version.

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