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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 03-05-2011, 06:11 AM
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You are grossly incorrect.

WW2 Online has managed to make a reasonably playable combined arms game that uses a few tricks to make the ground war a little faster.
And you do not need very large numbers of players in a local area to make it work. Squad level skirmishes can be very challenging.

The real trick is trying to herd the cats into a reasonable organized force/ That's the challenge, and thats not so much software related.



BTW, what is RO2?
Ragnarok Online 2??
I think he means Red Orchestra 2 an upcoming fps. After all FPSes are clearly strong simulations of ground combat.
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Old 03-05-2011, 06:57 AM
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The closest thing that I am aware of to a full war sim is ArmA 2. It has reasonably realistic ground combat over areas large enough for aircraft to maneuver meaningfully. However, the aircraft flight models are extremely simplistic.

Nonetheless I think the game proves that such a game is well within the grasp of home computers in the next couple of years, however it would be a monumental programming task with a restricted market (by the standards of the mass-market game industry) Because of this it would require a daring and dedicated development team, probably from a smaller company. Also even at ArmA 2's level of complexity the game and its expansions have been been plagued by bugs since its release, though it has steadily gotten better and better.

So for now I dream of such a game but I will not hold my breath. Heck I would be super impressed just to see something like large numbers of low-poly infantrymen put into a game like CoD, even if they weren't playable. imagine them scattering for the hedges as you strafe a column on a road! Arguably developers might be leery about putting that in because of the graphic nature.
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Old 03-05-2011, 07:03 AM
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I wouldnt mind trying RO2, what is the lastest version of the game called that has a demo? I see ostfront 41-45 on google but not sure if thats an old version/add-on

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Old 03-07-2011, 03:40 AM
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I wouldnt mind trying RO2, what is the lastest version of the game called that has a demo? I see ostfront 41-45 on google but not sure if thats an old version/add-on

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Red Orchestra Ostfront 41-45 is available on Steam for something like the price of a cup of coffee and is absolutely awesome. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Get it, and start playing on the TWB servers, either the Euro or the US ones. Although frankly, I play on both as ping is not really a significant issue.

There is a bit of a learning curve & it's quite unforgiving, but once you get the hang of it I doubt you'll stop playing it. It always surprises me that there aren't more il-2 players on it, as it caters for the same tastes - realism over drama etc.

Enjoy!

edit:: it's £6.99. Money bloody well spent, if you ask me.

LOL, I just thought: have you ever tried to convince someone that IL-2 was worth playing? That's exactly how I feel trying to sell you lot Red Orchestra. It's niche, it's realistic, it's unforgiving, and it's the very best of its type by a country mile.

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Old 03-07-2011, 07:29 PM
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Red Orchestra Ostfront 41-45 is available on Steam for something like the price of a cup of coffee and is absolutely awesome. I cannot recommend it highly enough. Get it, and start playing on the TWB servers, either the Euro or the US ones. Although frankly, I play on both as ping is not really a significant issue.

There is a bit of a learning curve & it's quite unforgiving, but once you get the hang of it I doubt you'll stop playing it. It always surprises me that there aren't more il-2 players on it, as it caters for the same tastes - realism over drama etc.

Enjoy!

edit:: it's £6.99. Money bloody well spent, if you ask me.

LOL, I just thought: have you ever tried to convince someone that IL-2 was worth playing? That's exactly how I feel trying to sell you lot Red Orchestra. It's niche, it's realistic, it's unforgiving, and it's the very best of its type by a country mile.
Hi Novotny, downloaded steam and got RO Ostfront for $9.99 US, has been downloading for 8 hours now and is only up to 900mb out of 2605mb Hopefully will be finished by the time i get home from work
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:34 PM
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Hi Novotny, downloaded steam and got RO Ostfront for $9.99 US, has been downloading for 8 hours now and is only up to 900mb out of 2605mb Hopefully will be finished by the time i get home from work
Crap, what is your bandwidth? Sounds like maybe you are on dial up. That stinks.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:38 PM
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Hi Kikuchiyo, have cable here but am only getting 200kb's a sec, am in Australia so maybe thats why
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The closest thing that I am aware of to a full war sim is ArmA 2. It has reasonably realistic ground combat over areas large enough for aircraft to maneuver meaningfully. However, the aircraft flight models are extremely simplistic.
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Try WW2 Online, FREE offline demo play.

To play other parts of map, after you pick the unit, shift the map to, say, Antwerp, click on Tank or Truck and (Enter).

If you pick airplane, make sure you pick and Airplane mark, ship with ship mark.
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