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03-01-2011, 01:45 PM
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Hey Mom, some kid at school called me a "Lufty Whiner".
Now's the point that I start thinking about if the Dedicated Server has restrictions on aircraft slots, ammo, types, etc... If I remember correctly, it does. Simple enough for online mission builders to limit numbers, etc... Spit II and E4/N limited to a few per side, for example. Quote:
S! Gunny Last edited by TUSA/TX-Gunslinger; 03-01-2011 at 02:11 PM. 
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03-01-2011, 02:10 PM
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my point is simple.
surely having a plane that fought in much larger numbers (the E1) in the Battle of Britain is more important than other sub types (E4N) which fought in much lesser numbers, if you want an as accurate as possible BoB (although having all the variants would be nice). yes/no? Last edited by fruitbat; 03-01-2011 at 02:18 PM.
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03-02-2011, 06:15 AM
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i guess we all here have the same opinion: That the CoD 109 , at least at release, will be the E-3 is 'strange'. It was there and had action but was by far not the most common variant. E-1 and E-4 would have been the much more logical choice. And perhaps more interesting for a Luftwaffe fighter campaign. First you have to fly the E-1 and later get the upgrade to the canon plane. Even more strange is that 1C already have the MG-FF/M modelled for the Bf110C-4 & -7 ?!?! my, very personal, wishlist for the 109 in CoD would have been: E-1 & -/B with DB601A-1 old canopy , no headarmour E-3 & -/B with DB601A-1 old canopy , no headarmour E-4 & -/B with DB601Aa with newer canopy and headarmour E-4/N with DB601N with newer canopy and headarmour would have been from plane to plane a nice improvemnt in a pilotcareer. And for online, COOP designers have no proplems to restrict the numbers  , and im actually sure that Dogfight designers will also be able to limit planenumbers and weapons.But ok, the axis side will get a lot (in comparison to the RAF) of flyable bombers  and dont forgett , there will still be the mighty G.50 
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03-02-2011, 06:31 AM
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Thanks!
Great list. Understand all. S! Gunny
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03-02-2011, 08:12 AM
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maybe they left something for the payware addons (*wink*)
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03-02-2011, 11:47 AM
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Perhaps there will be some very few flyable in a free patch/upgrade. There will be most propably not so many planes for free as in the IL2 past, but i guess Maddox will still release a little amount of his work for free Additional 109s would sure be canditates as not much 3D work (as example E-1: ammocounter in cockpit and some minor work on the wings) would be needed. But in general i more expect some CoD AI planes (and missing ones) in further scenario AdOns. As examples the Wellington flyable in an MTO (espacially early one), the Do17Z in an Moskau 1941/42 scenario. And Bf109E-4 and E-7 would fit in these two. And Maddox is planing to make these AdOns playable for their own or merge them with the others..
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03-03-2011, 08:04 PM
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Sure Gunslinger, nice share (without an argument lol)
If I get around to it i'll put up data on the Spitfire wing designations, but for the record the book is called 'Spitfire, The History' and it really is definitive - everyone interested in WW2 WF air war should have this book (check the reviews, it's all facts, not bias) http://www.amazon.co.uk/Spitfire-His.../dp/0946219486 ISBN's 0946219486 978-0946219483
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03-03-2011, 10:10 PM
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OK, I found some references to the wing, it's going to pretty cut up but to summarise:
1. Supermarine specification #462 of 20 Feb 1939 outlined proposals for improvements to the production spitfire...(lists requirements of which)...to fit the aircraft with 2 20mm hispano cannon, if desired alternatives of cannon and mg. In a meeting at Supermarine in Southampton discussed was trial installs of (a)2x20mm...(b) 4x20mm (c) 6x colt browning 50's. Joseph Smith enquired "...if there would be any objection to adapting all 3 installations in such a manner that alternatives of cannon and machine guns could be installed" This suggests that the 'universal wing idea was born according to this spec on this day. There were many other specs too and Supermarine built prototypes for testing at Eastliegh.... 4th June 1941, Supermarine tech report states weights of Spitfire III W3237 auw with A wing 6831lb, with B wing 7020lb and the new C wing (4x20mm) 7445lb (this is the first time I see 'Universal Wing' mentioned) and later it it mentions the dropped 'D' suffix for a 12 browning configuration. Under the section on the mkV it specifically states that the Ministry had a problem with general aircraft designation (MkIII was in trials, MkV to counter the 109F), This was around Feb 1941, and was affecting the ordering spare parts in particular. Thus it was actually the Air Ministry that listed the letter designation according to gun configuration and this was applied by Supermarine. On the subject of types there were planned 3 types for the mkIII's later abandoned but the designation system was adopted for the VIII and IX etc. The 'F' (fighter), 'HF' (high fighter) and 'LF' (low fighter bomber). There were dozens of combinations of Merlin engine and blowers and props which affected performance at different altitudes Hope that helps. Last edited by Osprey; 03-03-2011 at 10:27 PM.
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