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Old 02-14-2011, 04:54 PM
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This one seems to be very promising http://www.paccus.nl/

I´ve got this reply from them:

"Hello Roberto,

Thank you for your inquiry. We are currently testing the production prototype and trying to get the money from the bank to start production. As you might know, we are a new small company and that makes it difficult to convince a bank to put money in our company. We hope to get funding early February. Than we can start to create the production tools and make the first run. We plan to have the first units available by this summer. The price will be around €450. You could help us by passing on the good news. The more people that are interested in our products, the easier it will get to convince the bank. We will add you to our updates. Thank you again and we sure hope to make you happy in the near future.

Kind regards
The Paccus Team
Bart Sikkens"
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Old 02-14-2011, 06:51 PM
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I've got the Thrustmaster Hotas X, it's affordable, has options on the throttle aswell as sticktwist for rudder.

Some people say it's not very precise and has a large dead zone, well i think that is a bit exaggerated. But not totally untrue.

It's 49,99 euro

Now i just want TrackIR, but it's just too damn expensive. *looking into Freetrack possibilities.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:20 PM
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No money: Keyboard. Look for another hobby.

Bit of money: CH Hotas, last forever, does not look like you're a nerd when it sits in your living room. All bussiness.

Money: Saitek Proflight X65F. Nice kit but hide it when you have visitors. Right of the starship Enterprise. Nerd Alert!

Stupid money: Warthog Hotas. For those of us that don't give a damn. You know it cost's way too much and you should've known better after 2 broken Cougars. Still, it's the best Hotas money can buy of the shelf. You can tell visitors that you tore it out of a real A10. Mucho Macho!

The CH stuff will never break and will become heirlooms. Keep em around for when the Warthog breaks. You'll buy another Warthog but need the CH stuff for the weeks it takes the new Warthog to get to you. Did I tell you the old Cougar units make great paper weights and conversation objects?

So it's real simple CH if you're frugal and want quality. Warthog if you want the best and money is no object.

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Old 02-14-2011, 10:20 PM
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Now i just want TrackIR, but it's just too damn expensive. *looking into Freetrack possibilities.
Less than $100 used.
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:51 AM
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I’m using TM Warthog with CH pedals. So far no complaints with Warthog, I cannot imagine anything better. Had the CH pedals for years, had to replace one of the pots. The only complaint I have with pedals is spring tension is too weak.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:18 PM
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Well with what we spend on computers to run these things.. having a good hotas just makes sense. Plus it adds immensely to the immersion.

Whatever you get, just get more than a simple cheapo joystick.
How does an unrealistic controller for a WW2 flight sim improve immersion??
They didnt have hotas in ww2. Maybe a spit with a jet engine would add to immersion to especially when you go full after burner!!
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:26 PM
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How does an unrealistic controller for a WW2 flight sim improve immersion??
They didnt have hotas in ww2. Maybe a spit with a jet engine would add to immersion to especially when you go full after burner!!
Why would a WW2 pilot, unless he has to due to maneuvering, have both hands on stick?
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:06 PM
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Why would a WW2 pilot, unless he has to due to maneuvering, have both hands on stick?
I think you miss his point. WWII planes often didn't have controls in ergonomic places. Controls were put wherever they fit in the cockpit. The pilot would probably be constantly switching hands on his stick to adjust something on the right and then the left.

So really using a keyboard is more realistic than a hotas.
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Old 02-15-2011, 06:11 PM
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I think you miss his point. WWII planes often didn't have controls in ergonomic places. Controls were put wherever they fit in the cockpit. The pilot would probably be constantly switching hands on his stick to adjust something on the right and then the left.

So really using a keyboard is more realistic than a hotas.
Exactly!! HOTAS is unrealistic.
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Old 02-15-2011, 07:53 PM
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Exactly!! HOTAS is unrealistic.
I rememer that Douglas Bader often complained about having to take both of his hands off the stick to hit Ctrl + H and Galland often teased the rookies on having to look at the keyboard to make an Umlat.

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