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View Poll Results: Would you sacrifice small graphical issues in order to be able to use 6-DoF
Yes I could cope with this as it would add to my flying experience 270 85.44%
No, I'd rather have my head on a fixed stick thanks you very much 46 14.56%
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Old 02-14-2011, 03:18 PM
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Now we gona see how many, who have a tracking device. Or dont know how to set it up It´s only natural to vote yes, if you have one and know how to use it.
And it's natural that when you don't have a tracking device you vote no, why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has ) by making him able to cover almost every angle with his vision, even glitched vision which make him or her look in unnatural positions what in RL wasn't even possible.

but I'm not voting since this thread is probably meant for those with tracking devices..
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Old 02-14-2011, 03:38 PM
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Glitched? Some people must have a different version to me, my 6DOF is perfectly OK.
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Old 02-14-2011, 04:04 PM
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And it's natural that when you don't have a tracking device you vote no, why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has ) by making him able to cover almost every angle with his vision, even glitched vision which make him or her look in unnatural positions what in RL wasn't even possible.

but I'm not voting since this thread is probably meant for those with tracking devices..
Q:why on earth would I give my opponent an even bigger advantage ( than he already has )

The same reson as you have a joystick and some have not. I know some who is flying with keyboard and not have a joystick. Few yes, but they are there.My piont is. It is a part of todays sim hardware. Some have it and some dont. Some have a bigger screen and some have a small. Sorry that argument is a bit old to me. I have been flying with TIR since 2003. So its not a new thing that can come as a surprise.
should one go for the lowest common denominator all the time, there would be no development. And personally I think it is time to upgrade to 6DOF is possible. Imagine if when we had to wait to the last could afford to buy a computer it could handle COD. I think game developers would go bankrupt if they had been unable to sell the last new and demanding sim.

But this is my personal opinion. And no one need agree with it.

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Old 02-14-2011, 04:59 PM
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And the funniest thing if that HT devices can be really cheap, even cheaper than a good joystick...

We live in the darkness... Sad!
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Old 02-14-2011, 07:52 PM
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6DOF doesn't require trackir. I've got a version that works via the mouse. Kind of negates the argument that 6DOF is only for the rich or gives an unfair advantage to those willing to spend lots eh?

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Old 02-14-2011, 08:37 PM
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I voted 'yes'. But I want to add: "...only, if its done in a different way as in modification."
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Old 02-14-2011, 09:10 PM
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IMHO we don't need full movement. A little 6DOF, just to look around struts would be well enough. I also think this would minimize possible complications.
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:25 PM
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I voted 'yes'. But I want to add: "...only, if its done in a different way as in modification."
Dispoite i voted "no", would it be possible to implement 4DOF where the zoom of player head controls the in game zoom? ( wich is available in a rotatary already fro m4.10)

This would require no neew cockpits, and give not others unffair advantage.

Myonly issue with 6DOF- ze mod, is that it simply does not work properly with rolling and panning around, when i use it i tned ot switch this off and keep my head on the pole.
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Old 02-19-2011, 08:46 PM
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I voted yes.

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Old 02-20-2011, 12:59 AM
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In many ways I see this as a watershed moment... whether or not they realize it... with the addidion of a few key mods... 1C could in a way "take back" IL2... This is something that would benefit the community.. because many of us really don't need the 53 109 and 31 Fw 190 variants in the UP2.01 and while some of them could probably be added to the sim the 9 FW-190 variants and 15 Me-109 variants in 4.10.1 are a pretty darned good selection. even if 25% of the modded planes were added to the sim, along with 6DoF and a few other mods.. it would go along long way to getting the sim back into 1Cs hands so to speak... and of course this is just my opinion.. but I know a lot of guys who still fly modded basically because they want 6DoF.. and they want more in the the way of Mustangs as just one example... than the limited selection offered in the stock sim.

Some modders will always prefer to run modded just because they can.. and I have nothing against mods.. especially now after the overall classy way that thisa community handled them... but I am absolutely certain that if given the choice between a more secure official version with some of the added functionality of mods.. some which had been asked for for years... years.... and a ever changing, ever evolving smorgasbord of stuff that a lot of folks will never use... a whole bunch of folks would go the official route.... by choice..

It is obvious from the comments that many who are opposed to adding 6DoF officially to the sim either have never seen it work... or are going on some of the things that were early in the mod stage. The fact that what most of us fly with now is much tighter than those horrible shots from a few years back when this all got started says that there is a way to limit it.. but I have to admit.. a little 6DoF is better than none..

I'd be willing to bet that if 1C & TD took a serious look at what mods the community would like to see added to the sim... and not just the planes and such.. and then weeded out the ones that were not doable.... or tried to figure a way to make them doable.. a lot of people would actually prefer to fly stock.. From where I sit this is one of those moments where balance can be returned to the force..

and as I said.. of course that is just my opinion.
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