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Old 02-03-2011, 09:59 AM
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Hi Guys,

Sorry to be a pest but this is the third time I ask and I did not have any answer yet. There is a problem with the saitek x65f joystick. The dual throttle does not work fine with IL2. The right throttle is not recognized by the software. It reads it as a two positions switch (even if it call it a slider, it only has two positions once linked, 0% or 50%). It is not a problem with the saitek sofware (i have checked all possibilities). There is a mistake in the way IL2 communicate with it.

Please Team Daidalos, give some light into this: Is it fixable? are you aware of it? Do you have the means (saitek support for example) to fix it? I thinking about selling the joy and getting the warthog instead... but still do not know if it will work or i will get the same problem. Please can you drop a single line to comment on this?
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:22 AM
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Hi Guys,

Sorry to be a pest but this is the third time I ask and I did not have any answer yet. There is a problem with the saitek x65f joystick. The dual throttle does not work fine with IL2. The right throttle is not recognized by the software. It reads it as a two positions switch (even if it call it a slider, it only has two positions once linked, 0% or 50%). It is not a problem with the saitek sofware (i have checked all possibilities). There is a mistake in the way IL2 communicate with it.

Please Team Daidalos, give some light into this: Is it fixable? are you aware of it? Do you have the means (saitek support for example) to fix it? I thinking about selling the joy and getting the warthog instead... but still do not know if it will work or i will get the same problem. Please can you drop a single line to comment on this?
Try this:
1) Go to Pilot and create new pilot.
2) Then go to Controls and, find the HOTAS section and try to assign the problematic throttle to any of the controls (Flaps or Power for example).
3) Report here what is displayed for the problematic throttle (X-Axis, Y-Axis, U- Axis, or something else, or nothing at all)
4) You can also try to assign the problematic throttle to non-analog control, like for example Pause Game in TIME COMPRESSION section. See how Il2 recognizes this control.
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Old 02-03-2011, 11:38 AM
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Hi Guys,

Sorry to be a pest but this is the third time I ask and I did not have any answer yet. There is a problem with the saitek x65f joystick. The dual throttle does not work fine with IL2. The right throttle is not recognized by the software. It reads it as a two positions switch (even if it call it a slider, it only has two positions once linked, 0% or 50%). It is not a problem with the saitek sofware (i have checked all possibilities). There is a mistake in the way IL2 communicate with it.

Please Team Daidalos, give some light into this: Is it fixable? are you aware of it? Do you have the means (saitek support for example) to fix it? I thinking about selling the joy and getting the warthog instead... but still do not know if it will work or i will get the same problem. Please can you drop a single line to comment on this?
the problem is in your joystick, not in the game, desintall drivers, clean everithing (delete manually any folder or file after desintall the driver) and reinstall.
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Old 02-03-2011, 01:21 PM
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Try this:
1) Go to Pilot and create new pilot.
2) Then go to Controls and, find the HOTAS section and try to assign the problematic throttle to any of the controls (Flaps or Power for example).
3) Report here what is displayed for the problematic throttle (X-Axis, Y-Axis, U- Axis, or something else, or nothing at all)
4) You can also try to assign the problematic throttle to non-analog control, like for example Pause Game in TIME COMPRESSION section. See how Il2 recognizes this control.
I have already use the "problematic" throttle with other axis and the exact same result. The computer displays it with z slider axis, but as I stated before when in use it only record two positions. 0% all the way to the top and it changes to 50% once you reach the top. It does work correctly with fsx, rof and a tool called multithrottle 4.0 that uses devicelink to communicate the joy with il2 (that I can only use with the xp rig)

I try with Joycntrl and the same result. I have not use it with an analogue key yet but I will try tonight and report.

Next week I am expecting to receive the warthog and I will check with it as well.

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the problem is in your joystick, not in the game, desintall drivers, clean everithing (delete manually any folder or file after desintall the driver) and reinstall.
Not at all. I had already three saitek x65f in three different computers and the same problem with the three of them. One xp, another vista and the third with windows 7. I have reinstalled the software of the joy (and even deleted registry entry) like 50 times (no joking) because another different problem I had with one of the joys and the problem persisted all of the time. Sturreaktor, there is no problem with the joy or with the joy software. Do you have a x65f? Does it work right on yours?

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Old 02-03-2011, 03:04 PM
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many saiteks x52s have that problem, try only installing the cd drivers
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:48 PM
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many saiteks x52s have that problem, try only installing the cd drivers
As I explained above I have use different drivers, even one beta driver still under development. All with the same result. x65f does not communicate the right throttle with il2 right.
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:55 PM
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Tested with keys. It does not recognise it as a key.
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:47 PM
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Tested with keys. It does not recognise it as a key.
OK. Do you use any Saitek joystick profile when playing Il2? Check that this throttle is not altered to act as a switch there.

You can also check ingame joystick settings (Hardware Setup -> Input). Look for something unusual, like sensitivity, filtering or dead band settings.
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Old 02-07-2011, 06:35 AM
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Well, I've asked this before - but if there is a way to add a conf.ini option to disable TrackIR while in external view? It get's really weird controlling the external view with TrackIR for me at least. Most other sims have it this way as default... And yes - a lot of us enjoy to fly with external views enabled.

This should be rather easy I guess?

Edit as martinstripes is correct regarding his comments and my request above may sound more like a demand than a request Thanks for all your hard work! I have said it before and will say it again!

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