Still not convinced with 4.10 Seafire FM.

[SEE]

T.D., anyone who buys a copy of Il2 and patches to 4.10 might be a bit bewildered in the relative performance of the F4F-4 compared with the Seafire LIII. Reading the Aircraft guide, one will be decribed as having poor Maneouverabilty and the other 'excellent'. Be impartial and set up two Pacific Dgen campaigns that feature these ac and compare their maneouverability - go through a few missions for each but start off the deck not in the air- they are now reversed! It doesn't make any sense based on what I have read about the Seafire. I am not a 'winger' but please corrcet me if I am wrong (and BTW, this has nothing to do with the other 4.10 Spifire FM's - that has been well covered in my other thread) but I would like to hear what others say based on an impartial test comparing both these ac in the Pacific theatre against the nimble Zero. The F4F-4 is vastly superior to the Seafire....what do others think?

[pupo162]

without tryign to be offtopic, the f4f has been, on 4.09 and 4.10, a relatively good manveareble plane, compared at least with other american planes ( f6f hellcat and the other cats). This is offcourse a subjective opinion

[JtD]

The Seafire outturns, outruns and outclimbs the F4F. It's also far more responsive to control input. It is more manoeuvrable.

[SEE]

Not in my 4.10 patch, otherwise I wouldn't have posted but I hope others will try them and make an impartial comparison. If everyone agrees with you then I bow out gracefully (or hide my F4F-4 and re-model it to look like a Seafire.....)

[JtD]

You know, you could try the following:

Go to the quick mission builder and set up a 16 vs 16 or even 32 vs 32 dogfight between Seafire and F4F. Make sure the pilot skills are the same for both sides. Hit fly, engage autopilot and watch the show.

I did a 16 vs 16 once, and all F4F got shot down in exchange for 5 Seafires. Not really a manoeuvring contest, more an overall comparison, but still a nice indicator.

And definitely hilarious to watch.

[SEE]

I will try that but I have based my post on Pacific Dgen campaigns against the Zeros (1942 circa), the F4's outperforms the Seafire in T&B against the Zero and almost impossible to stall, retains it's energy far better. I tried B&Z with the Seafire and that's about the only way I could maintain any form of repectable energy to deal with the Zero. .....is it me?