Hotas setup for the upcoming Cliffs of Dover

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Katana1000S

I'm not sure why folk desire realistic looking WW2 controllers? In flight sim we make so may concessions to reality we might as well just go and buy one of the commercially available HOTAS controllers and be done with it.

I mean, even if you were to buy a realistic looking Spitfire controller, that realism is diminished as soon as you start using the keyboard for extra control functions a possible realistic Spitfire controller might have, then what if you decide to fly a ME 109 ... that's your realism out of the window

Unless you are going to build a fully functional Spitfire (or whatever) cockpit and just fly that one aircraft in the sim, then I honestly feel you would be better off with a generic HOTAS.

IMHO of course and fair play to those that feel they really want to go this route.

Its just a matter of taste,as much as I would like a good looking 109 joystick I know thats not going to happen,let alone a simpit or whatever its called.Thats too extreme for me.Nevertheless I would really LIKE to have ww2 themed gear for flying Il-2.Gear that resembled better those types or airplanes instead of jetfighters.

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Katana1000S

Fair enough, but you would probably get more mileage out of a generic HOTAS

Im gonna buy a CH setup...is that generic enough for you?? Haha,seriously though this thread has gone a long way,I thought I wouldnt get much replies.

[Flanker35M]

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Using TM Warthog + CH Pro Pedals. Good combo and should work in CoD too Can't wait to fly that Bf110..IF flyable for player

[Flanker35M]

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Hmm..could take a look but do they sell these kickers in EU too?

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by Katana1000S

I got mine second hand from Ebay quite cheap here in the UK.

Even if you are not pleased with it, they seem to retain their re-sale value well and you would not lose much by selling it on, mine is a keeper though.

Oddly it works better in some games and sims than others, does not work too well in Falcon 4, but that's a really old software sound engine, but in all versions of IL2 and anything newer than Falcon 4 it rocks ,,, and I mean rocks

If you are going for one, look for the new digital amp solid state version, mine is the original and has a little fan running in it that you can just hear, but then again I fly with good headphones and don't hear it anyway.

Oh yeah, in FSX the buttkicker is amazing too, as are games like ARMA 2 when you need to feel the sound as opposed to just hearing it.

Care to elaborate on how does it feel?Im kinda curious.For example does the vibration increase in proportion to every single throttle change?Stall buffet,gunfire,etc you get what I want to know.

[ghodan]

Originally Posted by Royraiden

Care to elaborate on how does it feel?Im kinda curious.For example does the vibration increase in proportion to every single throttle change?Stall buffet,gunfire,etc you get what I want to know.

It reacts to low frequency sound and the power of the low frequency sound(s).
The more low and power full the sound of the thing happening, the more powerfull the shake/vibration of the Buttkicker

[DD_crash]

You will KNOW when you have been hit!

[Royraiden]

Originally Posted by DD_crash

You will KNOW when you have been hit!

This game is gonna get me broke dammit.Hotas setup+better freetrack setup and now Ill add this to the wishlist.

[ghodan]

Ofcourse there is also the Ivibe
http://www.ivibe.com/default.htm

Version 3 is almost ready for sale according the the forum news.

This product does 2 things:
1) Same as the buttkicker , so react to low freq sound. But then with 5 or 6 "shackers/kickers"
2) If the game is supported then it will do some more inteligent stuff like forcefeedback.

[ghodan]

Originally Posted by Katana1000S

I'll tell you what is a worthy addition to WW1 and WW2 simulation fans, and its often overlooked as a gimmick, is the Buttkicker device, bolt one of these to your PC chair and fire up RoF and you will be amazed, you really need to try one to experience it ... It works way better than you would imagine, in a real WW1 or WW2 aircraft you would feel the engine at different throttle settings through the seat of your pants, the Buttkicker goes some way to replicating this ... I'll always remember trying it in RoF for the first time and flying over flack, one flack burst was so close it literally made me jump out of my seat with a massive thump through the seat that could be felt even over the the engine vibrations.

Best of all the Buttkicker has no PC performance hit draw back, just plug it in and go.

I'm looking forward to trying it in IL2 CoD and feeling as well as hearing the magnificent sound of the Merlin engine.

Agreed.
Had the same experience but over Pearl harbor.
Got hit by flak

yes you can buy them in the EU.
2 shops that i know straight away:
http://www.simw.com/ (Belgium but they send to all country's in EU)
http://www.aviationmegastore.com/ (Near airport Schippol , Amsterdam Nederlands)

Make sure you buy Buttkicker gamer v2
It has a wired remote and the amp is more silent and v1 are known for blowing up their own amp.