Hurricane MK II Vs. He-162A-2???

[bobbysocks]

BigShotOlivia28 has been around for awhile. she is also on xbox. i played her once a long time ago and she flew well then. she always played arcade tho and i gravitate to real and sim so i dont see her that much.

[Reggie Mental]

The He162 is modelled on early turbojet technology. Because we may have flown a modern sim with loads of power like and F16 or F18 we assume jets have always had very fast acceleration and climb. In 1944/5 this was not the case.

BMw003 or JUMO 004 or Hirth SO11 engines did not have reheat and their power out put was dependent on slow spooling up times and how much air was getting inside them.

All fighters lose speed in turns, but piston engines accelerate better afterwards. Early jets did not and needed long straight runs, even shallow dives to spool up the turbine and give more power output. More air in=More power out, bit like a supercharger for high altitude piston engines. Jets of that period were best fought like their piston engined contemporaries, ie energy tactics!

Also when flying the He162, you should exploit its straight line speed. It will accellerate to 700km/h + if flown well. It is more accurate gun platform at higher speeds. At lower speeds it 'snakes' when the cannons are fired. This was due to the designs inherent longitudinal instability, a problem that would likely have been cured by a v tail and higher dihedral in the C model. The D model swept forward wings were not possible with current construction methods, but were a theoretical improvement. The propsed armanent of 2 30mm cannons would have been devastating against bombers and ground targets. Also the small size and the fitting of the cannons close to the centreline means little problems with divergence too.

As a dogfighter it is also very capable. Just don't let your speed drop below 550km/h and don't get lower than your opponent (unless you have built up a good rate of speed first.) If it goes wrong and you find yourself pootling about 220kmh, dive away and attack later.

If I went online against Hurricane MkIIc, I'm pretty sure I'd shred it in short order. The Volksjager is one of my best mounts. Fast, small target, easy to fly and powerfully armed.

[Robotic Pope]

The all the Jets in arcade are slower than the prop planes. Its like they didn't get the warp speed engine that the prop planes did. Stick with us playing sim Cryptic, you are getting good at it.

[olife]

personnaly i play sim at 98% of the time and one thing is sure:if u can fly faster with a propeller plane than with a jet as me163,262,he162 or arado234,the reason is there is an alien technology in your propeller plane!!lol!!!and i have the same opinion for arcade and realistic ,what is the interest to insert a jet planes in the game if there are slower than the propeller planes?in the real the ww2 propeller planes pilots were totaly unable to shoot a jet plane in dogfight exept by surprise or when they landed,the jet engines are too powerful for the poor propeller planes!!
your prob must be the internet connection

[FOZ_1983]

The Hurricane should ALWAYS out turn the Shitfire

Its good to see someone using it and using it well.... regardless of difficulty haha. IMO they are using the best thing. Kudos to them.

We shoudl start an exclusive club, the Hurricane users club

[mavrickandgoose]

Originally Posted by FOZ_1983

The Hurricane should ALWAYS out turn the Shitfire

Its good to see someone using it and using it well.... regardless of difficulty haha. IMO they are using the best thing. Kudos to them.

We shoudl start an exclusive club, the Hurricane users club

play me 1v1 ill prove to you spit 2 out turns hurricane everytime

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by mavrickandgoose

play me 1v1 ill prove to you spit 2 out turns hurricane everytime

This is a computer game.. doesnt count


In real life....

Hurri out turns the Spit
Hurri Is a more stable gun platform
Hurri is more forgiving
Hurri is capable of substaining more battle damage and still making it home
Hurri is better looking
Hurri is easier to land
Hurri is just better?
Hurri won the Battle of Britain
Hurri pilot got the only VC of the entire Battle of Britain
Hurri was the most versatile plane of the war
Foz is a Hurri fan boy can you tell?

Dont give me the bad points... please

[mavrickandgoose]

real life i thought this was about the game lol i still doubt that a hurricane would come close to beating a spit in a fight just my opinion

[FOZ_1983]

Originally Posted by mavrickandgoose

real life i thought this was about the game lol i still doubt that a hurricane would come close to beating a spit in a fight just my opinion

Ah right, my mistake. Sorry.

In the game alot of things are messed up, we just deal with it. I'd like a good old MkI Hurricane/Spitfire in the game, also like the Hurricane to have only 8 guns instead of 12 and for the love of god... i wish it sounded like a merlin. The spitfire and p51's have the sound, so no idea why the hurricane couldnt



Dirty Russians.

[Cryptic Phant0m]

I still don't think its my connection.

Every time I try to hit her there is a slight pause and suddenly she jumps forward a few feet. I have only experienced this with her.

Tonight I used the Spit XII against her and she still out turned me.

Then I flew in a yak 3 and her in a 109 g6 and again she out turned me every time.

I thought that the Yak 3 was superior to the BF 109G's or at least in history.

Wiki
"Marcel Albert, the official top-scoring World War II French ace that flew the Yak in USSR with the Normandie-Niémen Group, regarded it a superior aircraft to the P-51D Mustang and to the Supermarine Spitfire."