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Old 01-16-2011, 11:34 AM
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Most likely not, already now I am mainly playing newer sims. I will keep Il-2:46 for the Pacific theater on my HD, at least until the Korea sim comes out, just like I kept CFS2 installed after the original Il-2 was released. However back then I couldn't go back since Il-2 was superior on almost every aspect, despite the huge amount of planes and theaters in CFS2. I expect the same effect after CoD.
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Old 01-16-2011, 02:29 PM
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I don't care at all for the pacific theatre,but will still fly il2 for a while,at least until an online war turns up for the new title.
If we can get a flyable Do17 for the BoB I think I will spend all my time there.
And,I would be quite happy if il2:CoD was on HL!
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Old 01-16-2011, 04:06 PM
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Il2 with the latest updates, still looks pretty good. It will probably be another 5 years before CoD covers all the content Il2 has right now. Rise of Flight allready looks quite a bit nicer and more detailed than Il2 but Il2 is still enjoyable. I just ordered a new system for RoF,CoD and DCS A10. Il2 will be on there for the foreseeable future.

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Old 01-16-2011, 04:40 PM
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I remember when starting out with Il2. I exploited every FMB feature possible. Worked on campaigns and missions for hours on end. I spent three years just enjoying the things I could do with IL2 on the Kuban map.

Lock ON devs have worn out the Crimea map and still keep adding.
Someone mentioned the map has expanded into the Kuban. Since I don't do the Lock On I wouldn't know for sure.

What I'm saying is... there is plenty that can be done for a long time everyone will enjoy. One quality map, a good FMB and improved AI will make the BOB a greater starter package, and the improved programming tools in the FMB and AI will be awesome.

I know the plane screamers will start immediately, along with the mappers.
They have a cup that will never be filled. Look at all the constant barrage of whines on the TD threads for aircraft. Always people wanting new aircraft. I doubt most of the whiners give a rat's behind. The just think they want something, until the get it. They spend a couple days with it and move on to other wants.

I think aircraft should be $old in packets by war theatre with the opposing forces aircraft from the same time period. Then people can put their money where their mouth is... and actually do something with the added aircraft. Maybe the inclusion of a couple maps and some ground objects could round out the package.

Actually, this might be a good revenue producer and Oleg could still sell addon editions. LOL
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:13 PM
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I remember when starting out with Il2. I exploited every FMB feature possible. Worked on campaigns and missions for hours on end. I spent three years just enjoying the things I could do with IL2 on the Kuban map.

Lock ON devs have worn out the Crimea map and still keep adding.
Someone mentioned the map has expanded into the Kuban. Since I don't do the Lock On I wouldn't know for sure.

What I'm saying is... there is plenty that can be done for a long time everyone will enjoy. One quality map, a good FMB and improved AI will make the BOB a greater starter package, and the improved programming tools in the FMB and AI will be awesome.

I know the plane screamers will start immediately, along with the mappers.
They have a cup that will never be filled. Look at all the constant barrage of whines on the TD threads for aircraft. Always people wanting new aircraft. I doubt most of the whiners give a rat's behind. The just think they want something, until the get it. They spend a couple days with it and move on to other wants.

I think aircraft should be $old in packets by war theatre with the opposing forces aircraft from the same time period. Then people can put their money where their mouth is... and actually do something with the added aircraft. Maybe the inclusion of a couple maps and some ground objects could round out the package.

Actually, this might be a good revenue producer and Oleg could still sell addon editions. LOL
Ha ha, well then certain UFO would never have reached anyones game! Just need to think of that silly Lerche one of the most unnecessary aircraft in the whole sim. After first trails who uses that thing? If paying for aircraft would force developers to stick to aircraft needed for mission building, and leaving ridiculous aircraft, next to no one needs, a side only then, that would be a good idea. But is that really new? We had the "ace expansion pack", "Forgotten Battles", "Pacific Fighters", "PE2" etc. for which we payed.....so nothing really new.....and still we got the nut case aircraft in 1946 that just take up space but no one really uses.
A poll held at certain times left to run say four to five weeks, which area should be developed next would be a neat thing, and yes it can be a payed expansion....I would prefer that to getting aircraft for free that I will never use and just take up space.
But then will the developers even listen to customer wishes? Or will they just make what ever they fancy?
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:48 PM
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You would prefer paying for every single flyable instead of having a bunch of them for free, because they "take up space"? LOL

Now that's something really important to take notice of. A few megs of harddrive space in a game that takes 4+ gigs....
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Old 01-16-2011, 05:59 PM
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You would prefer paying for every single flyable instead of having a bunch of them for free, because they "take up space"? LOL

Now that's something really important to take notice of. A few megs of harddrive space in a game that takes 4+ gigs....
Well LOL to you too, of what use are free bees when no one needs and uses them? Mind explaining? Yes I would pay if that would garantie that needed aircraft make it into the sim yes! As what missions is anyone going to make with those UFOs we got stuffed in on the 1946 dvd? Have you seen them on any servers after the first year 1946 came out? I doubt it! So LoL to you, if you can not see the point.
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Old 01-16-2011, 06:06 PM
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As I recall

Some of those weird aircraft were things 3rd party devs built. Oleg checked them out and threw them into the mix (no harm done). Mostly, I think to throw the plane whiners a bone. LOL

Improved FMB and AI will move the sim up a bunch for Offline players, which I am for the most part.

The Online game is important, so Oleg will definitely have to maintain control of everything aircraft in the game. I'm OK with that.

I remember the CFS2 when you could get all the 3rd party aircraft. Heck... I had a F4U that could knock down an enemy aircraft at 3,000 meters. I mean all you had to do is point and he was dead. You could change the flight model and top speed was anything you wanted. Nope...we don't want that.
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Old 01-16-2011, 11:19 PM
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Ha ha, well then certain UFO would never have reached anyones game! Just need to think of that silly Lerche one of the most unnecessary aircraft in the whole sim. After first trails who uses that thing? If paying for aircraft would force developers to stick to aircraft needed for mission building, and leaving ridiculous aircraft, next to no one needs, a side only then, that would be a good idea. But is that really new? We had the "ace expansion pack", "Forgotten Battles", "Pacific Fighters", "PE2" etc. for which we payed.....so nothing really new.....and still we got the nut case aircraft in 1946 that just take up space but no one really uses.
A poll held at certain times left to run say four to five weeks, which area should be developed next would be a neat thing, and yes it can be a payed expansion....I would prefer that to getting aircraft for free that I will never use and just take up space.
But then will the developers even listen to customer wishes? Or will they just make what ever they fancy?
I don't think there are any silly aircraft in this sim.. I think the diversity of the sim is it's strong point... and even though I have only flown the lerche a few times.. I think just having thre option to fly it is a blast in itself... With the amoung of AC in the stock sim alone there is more than enough to keep one occupied.. if you add in some of the mod aircraft it is just insane the freediome we have in this sim as far as theaters and aircraft... and all of them ae decent... decent enough.. and they all were free.. Cant beat t with a stick.
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Old 01-16-2011, 11:54 PM
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i think must peoples complain because want the operative airplane of ww2 and not want fantasy luft46. yes all peoples priority is first operative airplane of ww2 and after optional luft46 fantasy airplane.
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