Zuti MDS Still Not Ready For Prime Time.

[ZaltysZ]

Originally Posted by LoBiSoMeM

I'll never get this point, sorry. Even you try to ask for the customers/community if they can live with these glitches? I can.

Because things are not done in this way. There is quality control and it won't be passed on things, which are expected to cause glitches if they are to be implemented half baked. They will either be done right or won't be done at all.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by csThor

LoBiSoMeM

Since you have apparently some troubles understanding what was posted here's the short form (again):

1.) Part of the agreement between Daidalos and 1C Maddox Games was that Daidalos sticks to official limits and standards.
2.) No, 6DOF in its current form does not fulfil standards because of what you call "glitches".
3.) To remove those "glitches" (said in the spirit of euphemism you hardcore mod fans seem to like so much) would require to rework every single cockpit in Il-2 which is far beyond the resources of TD.

Is that simple enough for you?

Yes, very simple. IL-2 will never have official support for 6DOF. The "quality standards" today say it's OK to have a dated sim engine in a discontinued project without 6DOF. IL-2 will last forever without it, people even not like to have 6DOF at all.

And we widescreen users will never have minimum decent official support, we will live with a "chop" screen up and down, something that accomplish the "quality standards" of TD and 1C Maddox Games.

I can be sarcastic too. I really like the work of Maddox Games in IL-2 and BoB will be fantastic, but after 1946 the support for IL-2 is over. That's fine, but the posture of the "official patching team", who can't delivery nothing really important, is a shame. Maybe the lack of widescreen support can be a good trade for better skis on planes or assign radiator control to an axis. Daidalos can deliver great ADDON material, but "patch"? Without solving ancient issues? What is a mod and what is a patch?!?!

I paid for IL-2, at least I want decent widescreen support. But if I can't have it "officially", it's a shame and the "official" support maybe have to think a little about all the time talking about "standards"... Cut a lot of my default view to use widescreen resolution is YOUR standards, and a really low one, not mine or others. By the way:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/15320

People still buying IL-2 1946. Can please put in big letters in those sites that IL-2 1946, in 2010, don't have real widescreen support? Make it "official". And rename the "patch" 4.10 as the "official MOD" 4.10, please.

Thanks! Keep the good work!

[Fafnir_6]

Originally Posted by KG26_Alpha

Ok Back on topic

Zuti or DT

If you are still looking in this thread, is it possible you can have a look here.

http://forums.oesau.jg1.org/viewtopic.php?t=17383

Paul Lowengrins DCG in-conjunction with the MDS would be a great immersion addition.

As 4.10 is on the way perhaps a info heads up for him to get started on the project ??

Thxz

Hello,

I approached Lowengrin about replacing DGen/NGen with DCG in a future DT patch a few months ago and he seemed receptive to the idea. I also requested the same thing in DT's request thread but I have yet to hear back from them (no doubt they are busy getting 4.10m ready for release). If anything comes from this, we will hear about it after 4.10 is released.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[ElAurens]

Quality control is everything to a successful project, no matter what it is.

That is a pretty simple concept, that few, not all mind you, but few none the less, modders cannot grasp.

Quality third party work is a wonderful thing. But it is indeed rare.

I hope that the major bugs that I still find in the MDS, now that I'm using it more and more, can be worked out. Properly implemented it can be a wonderful addition to the sim. But if it means banging my head against the wall every time I try to make a new mission, well, then it's better to skip it.

Now that I've stepped up my mission building I find that saving my work in the FMB is FUBAR if I have more than three airbases on the map. Any base added after the original three will not have their info saved. This happens in 1.12 and 1.13.

I hate bugs.

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by JAMF

It's being discussed as one component of the 4.10 patch Team Daidalos is working on.

That makes it a patch or an addon not a mod anymore.
I see.

[|ZUTI|]

Pointless. Just pointless. I can finally see what some users here are all about.

[II/JG54_Emil]

Originally Posted by ElAurens

Now that I've stepped up my mission building I find that saving my work in the FMB is FUBAR if I have more than three airbases on the map. Any base added after the original three will not have their info saved. This happens in 1.12 and 1.13.

I hate bugs.

This why MDS version 1.2 exists.

[LoBiSoMeM]

Originally Posted by |ZUTI|

Pointless. Just pointless.

+1 regards my easy request - and always ignored as point of discussion - of bigger than 90º FOV implemented in IL-2 core for widescreen users... Maybe a gigantic bug will jump out of my screen and kill me if this change was made, I don't know.

I give up! Gimme cool skis!

[Fafnir_6]

Originally Posted by |ZUTI|

Pointless. Just pointless. I can finally see what some users here are all about.

Hello,

Please don't let it get to you. The vast majority of mod users love your work and soon stock IL-2 users will love it too.

Cheers & respect!

Fafnir_6

[KG26_Alpha]

Originally Posted by |ZUTI|

Pointless. Just pointless. I can finally see what some users here are all about.

Yes