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IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover Latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik series from award-winning developer Maddox Games.

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Old 11-05-2010, 09:14 PM
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I'm trying to decide between a 5870 or wait for the 6970 (if I can afford it).
Unless you're getting a really good deal, the 5xxx series aren't a good buy at the moment. The 6xxx series are better for equal money, and if the game develops (as IL2 did) to be more power hungry in a couple of years time, you can then add another 6xxx series, as they are much better in CF than the 5xxx series.

The 6970 promises to be a great card, but until we're given more info we don't know if the game will work better on Nvidia cards. It would be good if you could wait for more information though.
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Old 11-05-2010, 10:47 PM
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Release date

Sure wish this could be one piece of news everyone is anxious to read.

The marketing campaign appears to now be underway.

Updates and information should be available more frequently.

Check around on other sim sites each day as well.
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Old 11-05-2010, 11:06 PM
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Unless you're getting a really good deal, the 5xxx series aren't a good buy at the moment. The 6xxx series are better for equal money, and if the game develops (as IL2 did) to be more power hungry in a couple of years time, you can then add another 6xxx series, as they are much better in CF than the 5xxx series.

The 6970 promises to be a great card, but until we're given more info we don't know if the game will work better on Nvidia cards. It would be good if you could wait for more information though.
ATI cards will run it just as well at Nvidia cards. The only thing different is that Nvidia likes to give out a lot of cards to game developers so that they get their logo when the game boots up. This is a sales tactic more than a comparability issue. Sometimes a game is slightly more optimized to run on one brand rather than another, but the days of double-digit differences between equal cards running the same game are pretty much over.

Go with the card with the best money/FPS ratio.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:39 AM
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Unless you're getting a really good deal, the 5xxx series aren't a good buy at the moment. The 6xxx series are better for equal money, and if the game develops (as IL2 did) to be more power hungry in a couple of years time, you can then add another 6xxx series, as they are much better in CF than the 5xxx series.

The 6970 promises to be a great card, but until we're given more info we don't know if the game will work better on Nvidia cards. It would be good if you could wait for more information though.
I agree even though no specs have been published. I'm expecting the 6970 to at least match the 5870 for performance and add new graphics capabilities like Tesselation (if we need that).

I've asked both XFX and Scan if they know when and what sort of price bracket, hoping for an answer in the next few days (which will probably be "we don't know yet"). Scan have just offered me a good 'Black Ops' deal with the 5870, pretty much what I posted earlier. If the 6970 is several months away (actually to market) I'll go with the 5870.

My fingers are itching now

speculum jockey,

I've always been a Nvidia man (2 x 7800GTs atm) but ATI seem to have a big edge just now and I, too, don't believe ATI would allow themselves to be left behind on game compatibility.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:26 PM
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Steam is very useful thing, not only DRM, it is:
- global server list (filters, sorting by, and more more etc)
- auto-update (download and install lattest patch automaticly)
- social network (groups, friends and etc.);
- chat (easy chating from in-game, voice chat, messages like ICQ, MSN);
- achivements (military ranks, medals and awards, and etc.)
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:36 PM
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Steam is very useful thing, not only DRM, it is:
- global server list (filters, sorting by, and more more etc)
- auto-update (download and install lattest patch automaticly)
- social network (groups, friends and etc.);
- chat (easy chating from in-game, voice chat, messages like ICQ, MSN);
- achivements (military ranks, medals and awards, and etc.)
Steam as a sort of DRM is not really bad, I use it a lot, but sometimes the servers from steam are down or there are malfunctions which causes all servers to crash in ETW/NTW, it does not happen frequently but at least 2 times a month, a bit annoying.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:38 PM
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Steam is very useful thing, not only DRM, it is:
- global server list (filters, sorting by, and more more etc)
- auto-update (download and install lattest patch automaticly)
- social network (groups, friends and etc.);
- chat (easy chating from in-game, voice chat, messages like ICQ, MSN);
- achivements (military ranks, medals and awards, and etc.)
Albeit the lats 5 points are only to make the first one more tasty

UBI please hear me! If need be any DRM then PLEASE Steam!
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Old 11-07-2010, 04:48 PM
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I agree even though no specs have been published. I'm expecting the 6970 to at least match the 5870 for performance and add new graphics capabilities like Tesselation (if we need that).

I've asked both XFX and Scan if they know when and what sort of price bracket, hoping for an answer in the next few days (which will probably be "we don't know yet"). Scan have just offered me a good 'Black Ops' deal with the 5870, pretty much what I posted earlier. If the 6970 is several months away (actually to market) I'll go with the 5870.

My fingers are itching now

speculum jockey,

I've always been a Nvidia man (2 x 7800GTs atm) but ATI seem to have a big edge just now and I, too, don't believe ATI would allow themselves to be left behind on game compatibility.
I'm enjoying the smoothness of my HIS 5870 (CoD version), which comes lightly overclocked @875 MHz (GPU) and 1225MHz Memory. I'm pretty certain that it, plus a quad-core cpu, and some decent memory 4Gb+, will be able to run SoW at a decent setting.
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:12 PM
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Unfortunately ATI seems to be rather uninterested what Maddox Games does. IIRC Oleg once complained that they never answered his calls for technical support so that MG had to fiddle with ATI problems on their own. Nvidia was a lot more responsive, hence the traditional edge their cards have in Il-2. I don't know if that's changed ...
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Old 11-07-2010, 05:21 PM
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Unfortunately ATI seems to be rather uninterested what Maddox Games does. IIRC Oleg once complained that they never answered his calls for technical support so that MG had to fiddle with ATI problems on their own. Nvidia was a lot more responsive, hence the traditional edge their cards have in Il-2. I don't know if that's changed ...
not much. Oleg mentioned that the build he was demonstrating was an Nvidia build.
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