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11-02-2010, 05:52 PM
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In the spirit of 'bigger is better' I popped about £300 on a Hanns.G 27.5" monitor which has a resolution of 1920x1200.
My HD5870 runs it fine, maxed out, and it is adjustable via the monitor software, either by presets or manual adjustment. It replaces the 24" that I was using, now being used my wife. It's cheap and big and came without any dead pixels, and it shows off IL-2 very nicely. I hope it lasts  B
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11-02-2010, 06:51 PM
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I had the super cheap and wuite good 28" Hanns for a weekend too before returning it to the shop and buying a used Dell 30incher.Its worth considering that whatever you buy ,at least for IL2 ,if you dont play at 1024x768 you will find it harder to see enemy dots...
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11-03-2010, 01:10 AM
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11-03-2010, 04:11 AM
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11-03-2010, 05:29 AM
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I have a ViewSonic 28" LCD at 1920x1200 and can see fighters up to 8Km away (est). In Il-2 1946. Graphix is nvidia GTX 285.
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11-03-2010, 12:13 PM
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Fantastic response from the forum as always .... many thanks to you all... Im looking at going for an e-IPS panel I think and the Dell ones come highly thought of. A bit over budget but I love the reports of clarity and true colour reproduction as Im a keen photographer too.
Im running an ATI 4870 1024Mb card by the way so I would prob stay with 22 inch....
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11-03-2010, 01:38 PM
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Not sure, but i think their 22" line is discontinued though. I have the Dell 2209WA and was checking out their website out of curiosity, then i saw they have a new e-IPS 23" and i think i also saw a 21.5". These two also come with a display port interface which mine lacks. However, they seem to be a bit slower than my previous generation 22", so it's all a balancing act.
As for quality and reliability, i'm very pleased. These Dell models we're talking about usually have panels made by LG, they sport a sturdy, stable base with a vertical pivot mount, good ergonomics and firm adjustment points so that they won't drift or lose alignment due to their own weight. They also come with a 3 year zero pixel defect warrantee. That's not just stuck pixels, or stuck pixels of a certain colour as some brands word their warrantees in the fine print but zero pixel defects of any kind whatsoever, with on-site replacement to boot. I think this coverage can also be extended to 5 years for a small fee. Colours and viewing angles are superb (note: do some calibration though, even if only using online guides and doing it by eye it makes a tremendous difference), it's not as slow as people might think (i've had tons of gaming on mine and it does fine), the 60Hz refresh rate doesn't make your eyes hurt because refresh works differently than in CRTs, it's reliable and has great service/replacement options. I bought mine from a shop in the UK that ships all over the EU to save on cost (local prices were 100-150 Euros higher), got it in a week and i'm covered by an EU-wide warrantee so even if it starts acting up i can contact my local Dell dealership and have a replacement arrive at my doorstep. If you buy directly from your local dealer you can go even further, to the point of being a royal pain of a customer and Dell will encourage you to do so  When looking around in hardware forums prior to making my decision, there were people saying how they'd talked on the phone directly to the salespersons that gave them reduced price quotes, mentioned slight or very minor manufacturing defects and the salesmen encouraged them to ship their monitors back for refurbishment and have a new one shipped to to them...some people went through 2-3 different monitors this way.
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11-04-2010, 09:06 PM
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Going IPS drastically reduces the range of monitors available to choose from too, which can be seen as a good thing. From Dell's latest models, you're looking at a U2211H (21.5") or a U2311H (23"). Both of these monitors have a 1920x1080 resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio. So one isn't going to be harder on your graphic card than the other, and if you do have to turn the resolution down for increased performance, to 1680x1050, there'd only be a marginal difference in image quality between the monitors. (There are 26-27" monitors that use a 1920x1080 resolution and they look fine, though you wouldn't want to try and stretch that resolution any further. What this means is, 1920x1080 crammed into 21-24" is above spec and should look much better, hence the Ultrasharp name I guess). From what I can see on the Dell site, the only difference between the two monitors is their screen-size, their average brightness (with the 23" slightly brighter), and their cost. Going up to 24" though results in an insane price-jump (with a marginal increase in resolution). There are older models on the Dell site too but they're actually more expensive and don't have any real advantages as far as I can tell. In the same price range, from Samsung there's the B2440L and the B2430L which are 23.6" 1920x1080 16:9 5ms monitors, with no difference between them other than their outer design. From Viewsonic there's the VP2365wb and that's all I'm going to say about that. HP are too expensive and NEC are insanely expensive (as are the other full-on professional monitors). LG announced just the other day two new 21.5" and 23" IPS monitors will be coming out in November but they're LED models and so will be too expensive too. And that's about it, as far as I can tell... Samsung or Dell... and... Out of curiosity I just went to the UK Dell site (which has a crap layout btw, and no I don't want to take part in a survey), to see if they had the same monitors I found on my local Dell site, and saw the prices. I hope I don't sound patronizing, but I didn't realize how bad you guys are getting ripped off over there. Computer parts over here are generally subject to mark ups that are highly dubious IMO, but even so, doing a straight currency conversion, the U2211H (21.5") should cost 186GBP, not 292GBP (106GBP difference), and the U2311H (23") should cost 217GBP, not 351GBP (134GBP difference), with a 31GBP difference between the two models, not a 59GBP difference. Converting back the other way and seeing thsoe prices in my local currency, I'm not sure I'd want to pay those prices. Sort of puts a damper on the whole thing. As Blackdog said, it's probably a good idea to shop around and try to get those prices down. It is worth it to have a good monitor though IMO. Anyway, hope that helps, was doing it for my own knowledge as much as anything. Last edited by Les; 11-04-2010 at 09:22 PM.
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