Finish the game on 7 days?

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by hotfix666

If you shall finish the game on short time so I think is waste of time was on debir and fight? The EXP there is so low?
But maybe you must was there and fight so you been stronger?

You must back to debir later and can finish all that way...
You dont need clear the tower there but when I play on difficult hard... 3 last fight give nice exp.

I try play little on impossibel now but I get so little gold... how can I get more?

If you are going for a fast time/high level AND no-loss, then you have no choice but to try and kill as much as you can early on to make you stronger (but you are right, don't force the issue by banging your head on a wall, skip enemies that are too tough to kill). Else it would turn into a snowball effect wherein you are not strong enough for the succeeding fights, forcing you to skip those, then skipping those would force you to skip more fights.

Yes, those fights are low in XP, but low levels only need those low XP; and leveling up is paramount to get stronger (more skills/leadership).

Focus on developing dragon dig ability for chests. Then for easy fights try and replay the battles as much as your stamina would allow you; unwanted wanderer scrolls are very good sources of extra money in the early game.

[hotfix666]

Originally Posted by loreangelicus

If you are going for a fast time/high level AND no-loss, then you have no choice but to try and kill as much as you can early on to make you stronger (but you are right, don't force the issue by banging your head on a wall, skip enemies that are too tough to kill). Else it would turn into a snowball effect wherein you are not strong enough for the succeeding fights, forcing you to skip those, then skipping those would force you to skip more fights.

Yes, those fights are low in XP, but low levels only need those low XP; and leveling up is paramount to get stronger (more skills/leadership).

Focus on developing dragon dig ability for chests. Then for easy fights try and replay the battles as much as your stamina would allow you; unwanted wanderer scrolls are very good sources of extra money in the early game.

I will try go fast in the game... Its ok if I stay long time on same island but dont travel between the island all the time for buy new units.

I have some question?
If I shall finish the game on impossibel.
Must I have repairdroids?
I mean...I will try beat the game fast but not feel I must use same units all the game.
On difficult hard I know after I was on boro and rusty island and take leadership and runes I bee strong and can win all the fights easy on boro and scarlet winds.... but know is impossibel.

Im on scarlet winds now and have win some fights... no more easy fights are left. How shall I fix the another fights without lose so much from my army?
All the quest and map armys are left (I have already was on boro and take runes and leadership)

Maybe someone know what I shall use for units?

I play warrior.
I have 7 paladin and 1 cyclops from wanderscroll.
What is most important build up in the begining of game... petdragon or another things... maybe use runes on leadership?

[loreangelicus]

Originally Posted by hotfix666

I will try go fast in the game... Its ok if I stay long time on same island but dont travel between the island all the time for buy new units.

I have some question?
If I shall finish the game on impossibel.
Must I have repairdroids?
I mean...I will try beat the game fast but not feel I must use same units all the game.
On difficult hard I know after I was on boro and rusty island and take leadership and runes I bee strong and can win all the fights easy on boro and scarlet winds.... but know is impossibel.

Im on scarlet winds now and have win some fights... no more easy fights are left. How shall I fix the another fights without lose so much from my army?
All the quest and map armys are left (I have already was on boro and take runes and leadership)

Maybe someone know what I shall use for units?

I play warrior.
I have 7 paladin and 1 cyclops from wanderscroll.
What is most important build up in the begining of game... petdragon or another things... maybe use runes on leadership?

Hmmm... you are on Scarlet now but have already been to Bolo? I should mention to you that the biggest time waster is jumping from one island to another. That you went to Bolo first means you did not fight a single battle in Bolo, that you just went there to ninja the stone to get early paladins. Just want you to know that this move alone would mean you will not finish the game in 7 days. The time window to finish KBAP in 7 days was only a couple of hours, much less now in KBCW since you have more quests to do (time spent in wizard's tower, etc.). But its your game, I just assumed from the name of your thread you were going for a 7 day finish.

Well, since you're not going for a 7 day finish anything goes really. You could map-kite all the way to Reha for dragon/tirex eggs, its up to you. For warrior/paladin prioritize glory early on and you should be good to go.

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by hotfix666

I will try go fast in the game... Its ok if I stay long time on same island but dont travel between the island all the time for buy new units.

I have some question?
If I shall finish the game on impossibel.
Must I have repairdroids?
I mean...I will try beat the game fast but not feel I must use same units all the game.
On difficult hard I know after I was on boro and rusty island and take leadership and runes I bee strong and can win all the fights easy on boro and scarlet winds.... but know is impossibel.

Im on scarlet winds now and have win some fights... no more easy fights are left. How shall I fix the another fights without lose so much from my army?
All the quest and map armys are left (I have already was on boro and take runes and leadership)

Maybe someone know what I shall use for units?

I play warrior.
I have 7 paladin and 1 cyclops from wanderscroll.
What is most important build up in the begining of game... petdragon or another things... maybe use runes on leadership?

It is possible to win Impossible No-Loss with different units. But they almost always involve either Undead, Paladin Unit, Droids.... and perhaps Rune mages now.

I usually kite my way (steal a higher level map) if I get totally stuck.

If you are a warrior, definitely make sure your Rage Machine is good and going. Your priority is to get KEY support spells from either Order or Distortion tree.

Usually Distortion support is better, but Order is needed if you get level 5s early on so you can heal more efficiently.

[hotfix666]

If I can finish the game on impossibel without steal maps I be proud
Some people dont finish the game on easy
Its ok was ninja when I take cheast etc... but no map
I can start a new game and hope I get map to rusty island in scarlet wind... I will dont think in that way... now is the map behind enemy so I can not play ninja on rusty island.
I must defeat enemy now but I have problem with that now

[ckdamascus]

Originally Posted by hotfix666

If I can finish the game on impossibel without steal maps I be proud
Some people dont finish the game on easy
Its ok was ninja when I take cheast etc... but no map
I can start a new game and hope I get map to rusty island in scarlet wind... I will dont think in that way... now is the map behind enemy so I can not play ninja on rusty island.
I must defeat enemy now but I have problem with that now

It is possible to beat it without map stealing, but it requires... luck. Your early item break down, unit break down, and the enemy composition for key maps will dictate your success. It will also push your tactical ability to the limits.

It also requires you to somewhat know the enemy break down ahead of time, so you specifically build up your character to beat that key battle.

- going more for dragon rage as your damage dealer,
- getting a good early unit, so you try to make sure you get the good magic buffs
- or you push hard for level 3 phoenix because you got it early.

[loreangelicus]

KBAP is a lot harder than KBCW since the toughest units you usually get at Debir are royal thorns/inquisitors/royal snakes and griffins (from the two griffin egg drops); and of those, only royal thorns and griffins can survive the flame arrow/poison skull attack from the early hero battles.

But now you have blood shamans/veteran orcs/orc trackers on top of the list you have above. That means you could clear Debir without too much problems.

And if you focus HARD on developing dragon dig then you have a very high chance of getting a Call Colossus scroll.

And if you have been developing Glory (if you are warrior or paladin) and doing no-loss from the start, then hitting leadership 2,000 to get red dragons from the call colossus is a sure thing, what with all the eggs you have been collecting (so you could make sure you get the level 5 units that you want). You should be hitting leadership 2,000 before the end of Scarlet, just in time to finish off all hero battles there using the red dragon with support from spells and your pet dragon abilities (especially dragon kick).


EDIT:

So the above details how you take care of Debir and Scarlet. For Bolo you could add more tough to kill units like droids and cyclops (sold at Bolo shops, you don't need Call Colossus to get this unit). By this time your army could be composed of the following: red dragon, cyclops, guard droid, repair droid (split into two stacks); I don't see how clearing Bolo at no-loss would be a problem with this lineup.

[hotfix666]

I buy royal griffin and inquisitors to my paladin and cyclops and win over kraken. I think I get over 2000 leadership before end of scarlet.
I think I can make it now
I get bone dragon from a undead wander scroll
I think I fix all fights now on scarlet...with little luck and not so much loss