Friday 2010-10-15 Dev. update and Discussion

[SlipBall]

Originally Posted by Sutts

Not talking about plowed fields here SlipBall. Please look again at the image attached to this post. Those lines are 100% modern day tractor tramlines for the application of sprays and fertilisers without damaging the developing crop. I should know...I've spent hundreds of hours making them!

I've noticed that the majority of textures associated with cereal crops shown so far have been incorrectly given tramlines.

The following link provides all the details you need to know including how they are produced. If you scroll down you'll notice the second to last photo matches what we see in the SoW fields. This is all modern day agricultural practice.

http://www.ukagriculture.com/crops/tramlines.cfm

Interestingly, I've just noticed this quote in the article text:

"Tramlines became widespread in their use in the agricultural revolution of the 1950s and 60s. Tramlines are of vital importance in the modern farming environment because they prevent overlapping applications of fertiliser and pesticide and because they allow spot or selective treatments to be carried out accurately. Nowadays tramlines can be seen throughout most of the western world and are often inaccurately present in films about the past, watch Gladiator carefully next time!"


Ploughed fields will contain furrow lines and these will be identical whether produced by a horse or tractor drawn plough. Cut hay and other crops may also appear in roughly even lines. It is the tramlines only that is being debated here.

OK...I'm not knowledged enough on this subject, to argue any points you made in your post.

[Sutts]

Originally Posted by SlipBall

OK...I'm not knowledged enough on this subject, to argue any points you made in your post.

Fair enough but please look at the article all the same, the evidence is all there.

[mazex]

A small comparison with WoP that has been mentioned here (got in a bit too low and some guy in a spit joined my 2 player host while going on my photo run and shot me down so no second attempt )

It's getting hard to say which one is best now...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Originally Posted by mazex

A small comparison with WoP that has been mentioned here (got in a bit too low and some guy in a spit joined my 2 player host while going on my photo run and shot me down so no second attempt )

It's getting hard to say which one is best now...

I don't think it is.

Just look at the aircraft.
Then look at the water.
Then look at the towns.
Then look at the overall 'mood' of the shots.

The blokes at 1c Maddox games will produce the goods.
As I said earlier, given the news we've been given this week, it's too late for comparisons or recommendations for the initial release.
We're on the home stretch.
Have a bit of faith, and remember the initial release is only the initial release.
If recommendations and comparisons are necessary after release, so be it.
That's what the forum is for.

I'm really looking forward to the next ten years, when all these 'games' that the screenshots have been compared to have all been forgotten, and we'll all be wondering why on earth we moaned.

Like Insuber said, we just want a good combat flight sim.

I think we're going to get a terrific one.

[airmalik]

Originally Posted by mazex

A small comparison with WoP that has been mentioned here (got in a bit too low and some guy in a spit joined my 2 player host while going on my photo run and shot me down so no second attempt )

It's getting hard to say which one is best now...

I was curious what WoP would look like without the colour cast:

Original:


Colour Corrected (Only colour balance changed. No contrast, exposure changes made):

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by airmalik

I was curious what WoP would look like without the colour cast:

Original:


Colour Corrected (Only colour balance changed. No contrast, exposure changes made):

isn't both of these pictures incorrect?
Beginning from the coloring camo of the aircraft, then the sky, ground, water, how looks buildings, etc?
However as I think their goal was to make something like old films with distroted in time and from the beginning of that old time processes of film development colors. This like some auditory of users that do not interesting in simulation, but more in game itself.

[Spudkopf]

Oleg Did you ever get that training session in with your son??

[Oleg Maddox]

Originally Posted by Spudkopf

Oleg Did you ever get that training session in with your son??

No, he is still sick with a temperature and computer prohibited.

[Dano]

Originally Posted by mazex

A small comparison with WoP that has been mentioned here (got in a bit too low and some guy in a spit joined my 2 player host while going on my photo run and shot me down so no second attempt )

It's getting hard to say which one is best now...

The only place where WoP is winning is the city, looks great but in BoB it's just an IL2 style texture. Hopefully this is purely down to it being further away, WiP or due to settings. In all else BoB is superior.

Also, I appreciate that the BoB shot is at a different range but is it just me or are there some scaling issues there? Comparing the two it make the WoP shot look like it's an England populated with oversized fields, trees and towns?

[Romanator21]

WoP houses are enormous. That's probably the reason that they're visible at the height he's flying (1000 meters), and also why the town in the SoW shot is nearly invisible (looks like 2000m or so?). It looks good on the screen, but doesn't reflect reality.