SOW BOB : OpenGL or DirectX ?

[Madfish]

ebrain, I run Win and *nix boxes, including Mac.
1. You do NOT need to defragment a Windows machine anymore since Vista. And even before that it was only of minor use if you used smarts to set up your drive correctly (partition it, *nix doesn't do it much differently).
2. You do NOT need to install anti-shit softwares unless you do sh*t. And in fact most vulnerabilities come from 3rd party software (Acrobat anyone? ;P)
3. Updates are frequent on *nix too
and before 2009 you had to do frequent reboots as well. Innovations like Ksplice are neat, yes. But Windows too has a ton of stuff that just blows away any *nix out there. You made your choice, which is fine, but if you don't want to be trolled why be a troll yourself? Comparing OS's is up to personal preference. If you don't need the Windows features that's fine - but most people out there don't need *nix features either.
Let me tell you something: I ran win boxes straight for 1 year+ without rebooting. I knew they were locked down so I didn't care for updates either. I had no problems. But of course you can be unlucky - the same can happen on *nix too though. Tons of *nix's are hackable, faster than many Windows machines actually. Same with mac.


Actually DX11 was supposed to be released for Mac and *nix but legal issues came in between. It was announced back in 2008 if I remember correctly but I doubt you'll see much of it in the near future.

So yeah, if you want to get into gaming you have 2 choices. Either install windows for less the cost of a damn TrackIR which is really overpriced for what it does (at least here in Germany) or you could wait until OpenCL really kicks in as I'm sure it'll be a great alternative and many companies will use it.

In fact we don't even know for sure if openGL / openCL won't be implemented (or do we?)
I was waiting for this game for a looong time and I'm sure they will have thought about it as a future platform if they're investing that much energy into it.


One closing remark: "Like anyone here I've known Windows too, and this is something I don't want to be pulled through anymore."
Have you ever worked on an SGI workstation? They cost about as much as a good sized car back in the days and let me tell you, they have been great and shitty at the same time. Compared to a modern Windows 7 they were horror - and MUCH much pricier than some cheapo *nix like a free Ubuntu or something. So keep in mind that products CHANGE and that you can't compare something from the stoneage to a new release. Linux get's getter all the time (well, mostly), same goes for Windows as well. Especially Windows 7 is a solid OS with great producitivity. And if you recommend others to re-fuel their trolling somewhere I might remind you that you sound more than equally biased yourself.
Really smart is if you use the best tool available when necessary. Without hatred or fanboyism. I have no problems using a Mac for leisure or some work (video editing e.g.) or Windows for Office, Adobe, general Workstation purpose in a I/O rich environment and *nix servers (let's not forget freeBSD).


@Feuerfalke I would not recommend XP anymore since it is EOL aside from the SP3 Version (which will EOL soon anyways).
So even if a Windows 7 OEM edition will cost you twice as much it is recommended to buy it since you will be able to use it 12 times as long or more.

[Feuerfalke]

Originally Posted by Madfish

@Feuerfalke I would not recommend XP anymore since it is EOL aside from the SP3 Version (which will EOL soon anyways).
So even if a Windows 7 OEM edition will cost you twice as much it is recommended to buy it since you will be able to use it 12 times as long or more.

I'd always recommend Vista/7 unless you are insisting that OS' come for free - then you go for the lowest price.
And if you really just want to play a single game and do nothing else, XP will do fine.

[ebrain]

All of this is perfectly ridiculous. My first message here was really to know what's under the hood of SOW, just to know if if was worth waiting for. I had my answer. I never asked you anything else, did I ?

You are all making thoughts for me, for things that I don't think and don't say.
You do assertions from the point where your needs have to be anyone's.
You don't care what I say, and you are childish.

So please stay in your perfect little world, and forget me, because I will forget you for sure !
This is closure for me. Out.

[Madfish]

Originally Posted by ebrain

All of this is perfectly ridiculous. My first message here was really to know what's under the hood of SOW, just to know if if was worth waiting for. I had my answer. I never asked you anything else, did I ?

You are all making thoughts for me, for things that I don't think and don't say.
You do assertions from the point where your needs have to be anyone's.
You don't care what I say, and you are childish.

So please stay in your perfect little world, and forget me, because I will forget you for sure !
This is closure for me. Out.

When you step into the public and ask the general audience for opinions you have to expect a broad variety of answers as well. You've made 5 posts and many of them seem to be kind of... rude.

If you don't want to hear the rough guesses of clueless people like us, why post in the first place? We are not developers and if you want to hear it from them send them an e-mail. You probably know how to do that, right?

This is not a hotline where you ask a support employee and get a guaranteed answer. It eventually seemed to many of us that you didn't know this simple fact.
But obviously we are not allowed to talk to you and you better wait for an official to answer your "support ticket" for a non existing game. ;P

Of course we have to put up with your, "perfectly ridiculous", false claims as well. Next time you tell us we have to ask you for permission to speak on an open forum first, to ensure you only get the results you want while insulting everyone else and stating things that are everything but correct.
So much for making thoughts for you - I can guarantee you that most of us are rather tolerant and nice people and many probably wish they made your thoughts for you, since to me it is rather obvious that you didn't put much thought into your postings to begin with. :p



But anyways, since he's out he's out. I still hope that openGL / openCL is in. I'm not a programmer but I have the feeling that the openGL tweaks of IL-2 were eventually easier to implement because of it's open documentation? Switching to openGL certainly boosted my graphics in IL-2 at least.
I also imagine that with openGL the game could be ported to other OS's easier and thus increase the playerbase, even if it's just by a margin.
Eventually I just like the touch of OpenGL/CL and there is no reason to include it and the modding community could have done with direct-x as well?

[Feuerfalke]

All of this is perfectly ridiculous. My first message here was really to know what's under the hood of SOW, just to know if if was worth waiting for. I had my answer. I never asked you anything else, did I ?

And trust me, I will NEVER install a shitty OS (to my point of view at least, I don't want to troll about that) just to play one game, this is really out of question.

You're right - you didn't ask us anything else. You just made some very clear statements and so did we. What goes around comes around. Guess this wisdom works in Linux as well.