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View Poll Results: What do you think of this kind of pre-purchase option for SOW?
I think it's a good idea and probably would pre-purchase. 108 69.68%
I think it's a good idea but probably would not pre-purchase. 13 8.39%
I think it's a bad idea. 34 21.94%
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Old 10-05-2010, 02:58 PM
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So? Given how this community is it would just elevate whining to a totally new level. Or have you perhaps missed the b*tchfest of the last few Friday updates? Why on earth would Oleg take it upon himself to give this whiny bunch of yet another chance to demonstrate just how impolite and aggressive they are? An Open Beta requires a mature community but here we have something that makes a kindergarten look very mature.
Well, besides the different pros and cons of an open beta, there are indeed some social factors to consider. And I have to agree with you, that this community does not distinguishing itself as a mature or social group - even beyond the yellow forum-site borders.
I didn't think it would get worse than calling a forum UBIZoo, but if that's a zoo, this is Yellowrassic Parc - much louder, much bigger mouths, but mostly without teeth or enough brains to peel a banana.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:03 PM
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Developers can't stop leaks of their games when they send the final release to the distributor. We've all seen download releases available on the web, before they were in the stores.

Oleg has probably had enough...Piracy of his IL2 code.

It isn't a bad idea. It's just that we all know you can't trust people to do the right thing.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:15 PM
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Well, besides the different pros and cons of an open beta, there are indeed some social factors to consider. And I have to agree with you, that this community does not distinguishing itself as a mature or social group - even beyond the yellow forum-site borders.
I didn't think it would get worse than calling a forum UBIZoo, but if that's a zoo, this is Yellowrassic Parc - much louder, much bigger mouths, but mostly without teeth or enough brains to peel a banana.
Here we do have updates on a regular basis and developers have good discussion with forum members.

All the other air sim forums, link into our update threads weekly. This forums is the information source for everything about BOB SOW and TD upgrades.

This is Yellowrassic park?

Forums are designed to facilitate discussions, nothing more.
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:35 PM
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Here we do have updates on a regular basis and developers have good discussion with forum members.

All the other air sim forums, link into our update threads weekly. This forums is the information source for everything about BOB SOW and TD upgrades.

This is Yellowrassic park?

Forums are designed to facilitate discussions, nothing more.

I'm sorry. My interpretation of "discussion" of facts and related knowledge exchange does not cover what is going on here.

Besides that, the first two points are not related to your final statement.

That this is the only source of information and other sites HAVE to link here, is due to the fact that Maddox Games has a close relationship with 1C, not because Oleg likes the forum color or what is going on here.


The fact that Oleg keeps posting here despite the things going on is not something this community can be proud on. It's Oleg who deserves the respect to come here again and again, knowing he gets his screenshots of his beloved sim rubbed in his face in a weekly interval.

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Old 10-05-2010, 03:36 PM
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Here we do have updates on a regular basis and developers have good discussion with forum members.

All the other air sim forums, link into our update threads weekly. This forums is the information source for everything about BOB SOW and TD upgrades.

This is Yellowrassic park?

Forums are designed to facilitate discussions, nothing more.
He was talking about us i.e. The whinning not Oleg and his team...
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Old 10-05-2010, 03:40 PM
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Open beta releases could have suicide procedures built in -- self-termination after a certain date, after a certain number of hours or frames etc. etc. Considering that codebreakers like nothing more than a challenge, the encryption in IL2 stood up pretty well and securing a beta is a much easier job. Plus it could be radically stripped down, omitting much of the actual content.

It's a good idea if you ask me, though whether it's worth the hassle is anybody's guess -- testers would need to work on reproducing problems reliably and make sure they're not logging duplicate bugs etc.

Team Daidalos has demonstrated that community involvement needn't compromise either quality or 1C's commercial interests.

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Old 10-05-2010, 03:50 PM
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Feuerfalke; comments degrading the forum don't help do they? Posts that compare this place to the ubizoo only serve to belittle the forum and make you just as bad as the 'whiners'. Just rise above it, isolate the individuals who do whine, and they'll realise where they are wrong and hopefully stop.
There is only arguments like these around when a) people make posts like yours and b) there are weekly updates. I have found all the other discussion on here to be very mature.
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I'm sorry. My interpretation of "discussion" of facts and related knowledge exchange does not cover what is going on here.

Besides that, the first two points are not related to your final statement.

That this is the only source of information and other sites HAVE to link here, is due to the fact that Maddox Games has a close relationship with 1C, not because Oleg likes the forum color or what is going on here.


The fact that Oleg keeps posting here despite the things going on is not something this community can be proud on. It's Oleg who deserves the respect to come here again and again, knowing he gets his screenshots of his beloved sim rubbed in his face in a weekly interval.
Your contribution to the forums is what you make of it, in discussion with other members.

Who cares what color the site? Mellow yellow, or ruby red... the words are the words.

This is a very viable forums for discussions about BOB SOW and TD upgrades. Regardless, of your perceived reasons for that... it still is what it is.

I'm sure there is a more perfect way to do things. No sense going there, because this forums is what it is for now.
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Your contribution to the forums is what you make of it, in discussion with other members.

Who cares what color the site? Mellow yellow, or ruby red... the words are the words.

This is a very viable forums for discussions about BOB SOW and TD upgrades. Regardless, of your perceived reasons for that... it still is what it is.

I'm sure there is a more perfect way to do things. No sense going there, because this forums is what it is for now.
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True.

You got to be able to read and understand before posting as a needed qualification.

True, ha ha
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