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IL-2 Sturmovik The famous combat flight simulator. |
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Modeling cylinders and prop-governors is a little different that modeling a thin fuel line, and structuring flames to erupt from the exact point that the little line is hit. It seemed too good to be true, not to say that Oleg&Co aren't programming miracle workers. Anyway, I thought I'd repost this: ![]() ![]() ![]() It's a little old (2005) so a lot could have changed, bit it's not totally obvious from this that fuel lines are modeled. Likely, I don't fully understand what is going on in these illustrations. This was the cause of my "skepticism" of such fine detail. However, one can see how this surpasses Il-2 in all counts. You can clearly see the spars, control lines, hinges/attachment points for control surfaces, firewalls, bulkheads, armor plates/glass, radiators, governors, engine block, supercharger, oil reservoir, guns, ammo bins, radio, battery, etc. |
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I have seen cutaways of other SoW aircraft, but I do not think ever the damage model. It has an amazing amount of detail, including numerous spar structures, which likely means more fidelity on structural damage till break. |
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Phillip, the photo you posted of the American Airlines is a fake. Now you definitely can't use that as reference, lol.
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Yes, but there are many others which are not fakes...like this one (of 2 P38 having had a severe brush-up) I find interesting: very limited fire speed = 0...and no transparency of flame....
You can also have a look to this too well known one: http://photos.signonsandiego.com/080...Crash25Sep1978 This is still for me one of the most tragic images I have ever seen and I prefer not to post it here, but it does make a point fire-wise. JV |
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There are some shots of aircraft fires in this video.
Some of them are huge. All of them are pretty humbling. This is very quick but still shows fire quite well. |
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Should I cry? It's just a demonstration. If some photoshop idiot can get it right, then why can't a group that's been working with flight-sims for years? A simple answer on how fire can possibly look like that would be great (obviously Oleg isn't entitled to answer!). I mean, obviously it might be the way the shot has been taken (or when it was taken) but I'v never seen this in all the guncam clips I've seen or even in real-life images. I mean, if this is fuel related the flames should be fierce. Puny flames like this would surely be extinguished easily by the airflow? |
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Umm, thanks for editing my post? What was the point in that replacing an aircraft image with that green thing? So I look more antagonizing? Get a life.
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You seem to think that making flame effects is bone-headedly easy. If it is, why don't you show us some examples of your own work? Quote:
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Another (very famous) aircraft on fire.
The tragic concorde fuel tank rupture. ![]() Last edited by winny; 09-13-2010 at 07:02 PM. |
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![]() Regarding flames, calm down! I am basing all my knowledge on countless amounts of guncam videos I've seen. When I have fires in my fireplace, i can't see the bricks behind the flames, yet clearly here the flames are on such a small level one can. Now, there may be more scientific reasons (such as the fact that some flames on the hottest heat burn blue and are partly see-through, ie a bunsen burner) but I don't know. I've searched for pictures that match this one, and I can't find any. My point is that this photoshop job does look realistic; a lot more than in this screenshot. As I said, factors can affect this (like the movement in the game that will affect the screenshot) but I don't know. All I've been trying to say is there is not a lot of historical evidence to support the flame-effect. Various factors may make it completely plausible but it's easier to go on what you know than 'maybe's'. EDIT-did you deliberately want me to quote you and then change the picture to make me look like a prick? You edited your post after you posted this one! So you did insert that picture...or did it just appear there? Last edited by philip.ed; 09-13-2010 at 07:49 PM. |
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